GamingThreadIt feels like it's getting harder to discuss thing calmly in the gaming community
ReasonUser banned (1 week): inflammatory community generalizations
The problem with Era specifically is that in an attempt to prove how woke they are, people often argue against points you never even brought up. They want an argument, not a discussion.
More than once I’ve posted something and gotten a reply from someone arguing against shit I never even said because rather than engaging in an actual discussion, people on here just want to argue and prove how right they are and how wrong you are if you don’t share every single one of their beliefs.
I always have and still do believe that I’m an extremely liberal and left leaning person but honestly this site just exhausts me and embarrasses me sometimes. It’s full of hypocrites who just want any excuse to “cancel” another human being who doesn’t live up to the impossibly perfect standards they’ve set.
I’ve really grown to dislike this site over time. People here rag on NeoGaf, and while I’d never post there again, at least there simply having an opinion isn’t enough to get you banned. The moderation here is terrible, you can catch a ban for simply not being liberal enough, and as a liberal, that’s some bullshit. You’re not liberal at all if you feel the need to ban and exile everyone who shares an opinion you don’t agree with.
ReasonUser banned (permanent): excessive hostility, long history of infractions for hostility and trolling
Unbelievable, this forum has gone to the shitters and became exactly the same as GAF moments before the exodus.
Trans rights are human rights, and you fucks need to learn that.
And 90% of poliera can go fuck themselves too. Maybe grow a spine you pieces of shit.
Eat shit. Also, love to the good posters that will remain here, much love
EtcetEraThreadI told my coworker to STFU and she started to cry
ReasonUser Banned (Duration Pending): Sexism; History of Severe Infractions
I mean, it wasn't professional of me. But she tells me to STFU many times. But I never cry.
I'm still shocked by the way. Not feeling bad at all, just interested why she would cry and act all hysterical.
She's 26 years old.
My male boss says I have to be careful because I only work with females. And females are more sensitive to such things...
EtcetEraThreadResetEra is hostile to anyone who isn't center-right and has been driving many great users away because of this
ReasonUser banned (permanent): Inflammatory attempt to rile up community; ignoring staff guidelines.
A specter is haunting ResetEra -- the specter of leftism. All the powers of ResetEra have entered into a holy alliance to exorcise this specter.
As anyone who reads ResetEra knows, this is a fairly center-right liberal leaning forum. Political threads frequently get dominated by these members, many of whom are given protected status by mods, and dissenters are attacked relentlessly. In spite of this, the forum has had a great selection of leftists in the past who were willingly to wade into these threads and argue that a better world is possible if only we would fight for it. Over the past 3 years, however, many of these people have been driven off the site, many of them LGBTQ, disabled and POC, either by bannings (almost always disproportionate to liberals in the same discussions received) or by simply getting fed up by constantly being talked down to and demeaned by the bougie, largely white, PoliEra crowd. So many great comrades are gone from this site while the people who mocked and bullied them remain here, protected by mods whose attitude towards policing political threads seems best summed up as "the beatings will continue morale improves."
This situation has been rapidly deteriorating recently with any thread concerning Biden filled with liberals attacking any justified criticism of him, and even threads where no criticism exists filled with subtweeting of leftists for not posting in every thread about Biden. However, all of that pales in comparison to the shitshow that was the . It began with Oheao responding to Biden's plan to involve foreign policy and punish countries which were unfriendly towards LGBTQ people by wondering if this would apply to Saudia Arabia. He received dozens of angry replies from liberals and was banned for "thread derailment" despite being a direct response to a line in the OP. Several other leftists were banned over the course of the thread, most alarmingly, psychoward, who is bi, was banned for defending his views, while received only a warning for claiming that bi men were not LGBTQ enough. To add insult to injury, in the claimed " Do not throw LGBTQs or other minorities under the bus, especially that of fellow members." while the staff had just banned an LGBTQ member and protected those who threw him under the bus. And you people wonder why so many great members who aren't banned have abandoned this website. by to discuss the insulting way in which the left are constantly whitewashed despite their diversity was immediately locked with no room for discussion.
Enough is enough. I'm sure you'll ban me for this. It doesn't matter. For I'm just a man. And there will always be another KuwabaraTheMan. Another Oheao. Another Azuran. Another Desparadina. Another Psychoward. Because individually we are but people, but collectively we are a movement. And our movement can't be banned.
EtcetEraThreadBarack Obama and Bruce Springsteen launch podcast together on Spotify
ReasonUser Banned (Duration Pending Review): Inflammatory Generalization About the Community; Many Prior Infractions including Trolling; Hostility and Inflammatory Generalization
ERA doesn’t give a shit. You bring up dead brown people and ERA will just groan and scoff at someone that has the bring up the dead people again. Like it’s such an inconvenience to them.
I’ve never looked at this forum the same since I brought it up and I the response I got was “here we go again with the people that got blown up.”
I legit hate all of you and your idolization of your garbage presidents and this garbage country full of garbage people.
EtcetEraThreadBoys Pin Down Black Classmate, Cut Her Dreadlocks at Virginia School [UPDATE: Assault faked. See threadmarks]
ReasonUser Banned (permanent): Misrepresenting and mischaracterizing the concerns of others; numerous prior bans for inflammatory behavior including rationalizing violence against peaceful protesters
Just having a normal one on super progressive ResetEra, advancing the cause by calling for violence on... *checks*... innocent children, based on unproven accusations.
Handing out bans to people spotting holes in Jussie Smollet's story was hilarious, but this might just be a new low.
I wonder if people will take this opportunity for some urgently needed self-reflectiHAHAhaha, nah, I can't finish that sentence with a straight face.
EtcetEraThreadPhoenix Police Officer Threatens to "Fucking Shoot" mother whose daughter walked out with a 99cent Barbie
ReasonUser Banned (1 Week): Excusing violence.
This is why I have little more than apathy when I hear about pigs getting ventilated.
Where are the good cops, pigs? Where are the "good ones" on the steps of the courthouse explaining why these low-rent fascist thugs they call their "brothers" are both making this country less safe for normal people and the cops?
They're all fucking cowards, that's why they hide, whimper and then shit themselves with fear of their own shadows.
Fuck the police
GamingThreadTwo Riot Employees "Leave" Under "Complicated Circumstances" After PAX Session Excluding Men.
ReasonUser Banned (Duration Pending): Junior phase account arguing in bad faith over a series of posts; history of bigotry
I think it's okay for Riot to fire someone who insults their customer base and makes them look unprofessional, yes. But your attempt to misrepresent what I said has been noted.
I would like to have a productive and civil discourse on this, but I feel that the moderation policy on this forum stifles a lot of real discussion, as opinions going against the prevailing wind are silenced and shunned from the forums. This is then followed by people bleating 'the GGers win again!' at each other, like preaching to the choir, because they already threw away their chance to change someone's mind and instead just pushed them away for disagreeing.
With that said, I'll take the risk and share my full thoughts on the issue. Should I catch a ban for it, it will only serve to prove my point. Making this forum a safe space for people who only agree with each other will never result in a change amongst the majority of people who do not frequent this forum.
I feel that the event itself had good intentions (increasing female/NB representation in the industry) but bad execution. If Riot wanted to make an panel that was open only to women/NB, specifically for women/NB, there would be no problem at all. The initial uproar stems from the fact that men attending PAX, who paid the same ticket price and should have the same access as everyone else, were losing access to presentations that they would be interested in. If you want to show the content to everyone, but have a specific room where women/NB can raise their concerns and receive feedback on resumes, hear women/NB oriented talks, then fine. But the list of talks on the women/NB only timeslot was in fact fairly generalised.
The negative work environment within Riot was uncovered, and Riot responded by withdrawing access from men who had nothing to do with the internal structure or environment of Riot. Understandably in my opinion, these men felt that this was unfair (but according to a lot of people on this forum, it's okay because they're men and men already dominate the industry, so this was just a way of somewhat tipping the scales in the other direction, even if the specific men who were losing out from this action had nothing to do with the imbalance anyway.)
As for what DZK said. I think it's pretty mild and I have thick skin so even as a man who disagrees, I'm not offended by it. But I think the point still stands - you represent your company and you can't insult your customers like he did. That's all there is to it. I think trying to represent who disagrees as a 'misogynist' or a 'GGer' is disingenuous and the 'if you're not with us, you're against us' mentality on this forum is stronger than George W Bush.
EtcetEraThreadVictim of racist exchange at Edmonton supermarket recorded video to raise awareness of Islamophobia
ReasonUser banned (5 days) for downplaying the bigotry in Islamophobia and inflammatory derailment
I have watched the video and read the article, and while the man in the wheelchair was an ass, I didn't hear anything racist (unless I missed it).
Somewhat on topic, I am glad that this kind of clothing is getting banned in more and more parts of Europe.
This encapsulation has no place in a free and open society where men and women are equals. By wearing this, you are walking around with a permanent wall in front of you that anonymizes you and prevents normal human interaction with the rest of society, completely excluding yourself.
It is also sexist, because men don't have to wear it, meaning it goes against the principle of gender equality.
Depending on the specifics, I have and will continue to be highly annoyed when I see "white people" this or that without the qualifier SOME white people or MOST white people or whatever. If you mean some white people as opposed to the racist generalization of all white people, then say that.
If you think I'm fragile for that, cool. I don't care what any racist of any color thinks.
I don't see anything fascist about Trump or Bolsonaro. Fascism was an ideology which advocated that everything should go to the state. Libertarian governments like these propose the opposite. They want to diminish the size of the state and give more economical freedom to people.
Besides, it's pretty pathetic to label someone you don't like with a name that doesn't even means what you're trying to say.
The way I see it, the world nowadays is taking a turn for so much leftism that is unbearable. It's everywhere, from politics to cinema, videogames, music, etc. It's refreshing to have a more conservative government sometimes.
I think it's still a little ridiculous that having an opinion is a bannable offence on a discussion board. It creates the kind of echo chamber that people accuse Era of being. If people are allowed to say they're upset then why aren't people allowed to say it doesn't bother them or that they aren't upset? That's utterly one sided.
If we cannot present opposing opinions, It turns a discussion into a rally, and a rally into a witch hunt. How long will it be before you burn me at the stake for this post, I wonder?
GamingThreadVG24: Valkyria Chronicles 4’s sexual harassment problem is unacceptable in 2018 (READ OP)
ReasonUser Banned (1 Week): Ignoring modpost and a history of threadwhining about social issues
I really hope the next Fire Emblem won't have such stuff.
Not because i care. I don't give a damn personally but seeing those talks about the game to talk about social issues, EXCEPT actually the...game, you know?
That is exhausting for me.
I still remember the "Soleil" case for FE Fates that take the news about everything except saying Conquest was one of the best campain in the whole FE saga.
EtcetEraThreadJussie Smollett Breaks His Silence After Vicious Attack: 'I'm OK'
ReasonUser Banned (Permanent): Continuous thread derailment with hostility towards staff. History of severe infractions.
I hope this thread has generated a good long discussion and a shitload of introspection and consideration from the moderation team regarding the standards and quality of moderation on this forum.
Instead of just over-reacting and banning dissenting opinions, maybe there should have been an attempt to engage with people to try to understand why they thought the whole story was fishy (which it is now well beyond any reasonable doubt).
Instead, this whole thing was turned into a massive race/culture war where those with power abused it to shut out those they didn't agree with and then got egg all over their faces when all of the doubts people had initially were shown to be legitimate and not just borne out of "white privilege" or whatever buzzword insult was being thrown around.
I couldn't give three fucking shits about this guy and before this thread I didn't even know who he was. I certainly don't give a shit about whether he set this whole thing up or not and am only here because this episode is a perfect illustration of what is wrong with this place.
Who am I kidding? Introspection? Yeah right! It's just easier to ban people and bury your heads in the sand.
EtcetEraThreadShoppers angry over Walmart charging more for plus-size clothing
ReasonUser Banned (1 Week): Inflammatory + Dehumanizing Language
These clothes are a different, non-standard size that is probably manufactured in a separate lot. I don't see the issue with this; specialized products always cost more.
Maybe if you're so fat that normal human-sized clothes no longer fit you, you should take that as a sign to try to lose some weight?
EtcetEraThreadSpineless Democrats and Republicans overwhelmingly vote to table impeachment resolution against the occupant of the White House
ReasonUser banned (permanent): Long history of disruptive and aggressive behavior, hostility towards members and staff
FTFY. Era. We are fucking doomed. I just hope that when shit hits the fan, I will be at some place . Brazil isn't one of them, neither is the USA. I don't see how things could possibly get better without the escalation of a full blown world war, and it sucks because I made my living believing in the law. Believing in the system. Believing that people like me could hack the system and make this a better place.
Era like a safe place, but fucking . If my head wasn't in a cool place, this place would be fucking toxic as fuck for me. And we question ourselves because shit like Etika happens. We are killing each other. We are punching down each other.
If I get a ban out of this, that's fucking ok. I just ended a relationship but I'm eager to meet this girl that I've been quite infatuated with but fate magically brought us together after we both just broke up. I don't really care about box office records and shit like that. I care about things that make me hopeful in the world we are fucking living in. I care about escapism, in order to be ready to fight in real life, with real world issues.
Do you want to break me, clique Era?
The real world around us is worst than you but not even them could.
Would I be sad if I got banned? Yeah. I would. But I don't fucking feel welcome here, and when this place started, it felt like a safe haven from all the shit that is going on in the real world. I don't really blame Era for becoming a fucking monster. The world went to fucking shit. I get that, but I wish we could stand together, you know? My home team just got a big win. My life doesn't suck. I'm proud of the life I lead up until here, regardless how hopeless everything else, including fucking Era makes me feel. But this is the nightmare we are all living in, isn't? "Go out there and vote". I will. And I will fight. I have all the reasons for it.
I don't feel like I belong in this place. I'm fucking sick of the cliques and get hammered down every fucking day. This was supposed to be fucking safe haven for people like us. I've met crazy nice people. But the bad far much outweighs the good, and this goes all the way to the fucking top chain. Yep, I'm drunk, happy, crying and kinda proud of myself for having the guts to spell this shit out. We were supposed to be way fucking better than we are right now. We were supposed to not allow fucking bullies to thrive and shit over people like we do here.
And yet, we fucking are not. This has become a place of fucking cliques and shit like just the "old place" and other shitholes in the internet. And when all the people at the top are complacent, what makes this places better than the other places again?
And I'm fucking sick of it. Our world is fucking sick. Thank fucking the force I have a kick ass support system, thank the fuck I have good people, real life people around me. Because if I was suicidal, this place isn't fucking healthy. This place isn't healthy not even for people that are fucking healthy. We need to get fucking better on how we treat each other. The world has gone to fucking shit. Yes, FUCKING YES, ban permanently the bigots, the white supremacists, the homophobes, the transphobes, the racists, the sexists, the fucking rapists. But we need to learn to have more fucking empathy among ourselves, and remember that this was supposed to be fucking safe haven. Not for the fucking cliques. But for every fucking one of us.
And if this is my last post around these parts, I am fucking damn proud of it. Banned or not, it just fucking might. Sick of this shit.
this seems like a proxy issue and not a Bernie problem directly.
I don’t hate Nina but she is just a terrible tv spokesperson- not to mention she keeps hiring dumpster fire pals.
A few times i watched her get hyper animated at Ridiculous or insulting questions and fight thunderously with pundits - but over the years I realized that’s her default setting they should keep her off camera because she also gets combative and angry over really generic and milquetoast stuff. If she’s a genius organizer just have her do that.
if Bernie wins this is going to become even more important because his campaign is going to have to reach other candidates folks and even what pathetic remnants of turnable gop voters stillexist
GamingThreadPewDiePie attempts to distance himself from Christchurch Mosque shooter who pledged support (READ THREADMARKS)
ReasonUser Banned (2 Weeks): Downplaying Hate Speech
It's interesting to watch what is being highlithed about this in news articles and in this very thread.
It's not the fact that guys like this have access to guns, or the rise of extreme views in this day and age that sometimes conclude in tragedies like this horrific event.
No, it has to come down to damn vidya games and because of this and that youtuber, while people shouting "sjw libtard" and "neckbeard gamergater nazi" at each other.
Show some class people, let's just try to make at least this community a bit less shitty and mourn these poor souls who died for this very sad and stupid reason in that church without jumping at each others throat.
GamingThreadIs Kojima the M. Night Shyamalan of the gaming industry?
ReasonUser Banned (3 Days): Mocking an Ethnic Name
Kojima is a good and most importantly consistent director and producer. Warts and all. The 6/10 MGSV GZ paid demo is the worst that ever came from him in a directing capacity. Shama Lama Ding Dong, well. The 6th Sense and Unbreakable are good but not great, 7/10. His other work is average at best and utter dog shit at worst. His body of work is barely worth talking about and he is overshadowed by his arrogance and insanity. He keeps finding work though regardless of what happens as he somewhat knows how to budget. Also this:
You are the worst 2002.
GamingThreadCyberpunk 2077 Twitter account makes transphobic joke (READ OP)
ReasonUser Banned (Duration Pending): Dismissing and tone policing concerns regarding transphobia. Account still in junior phase.
I am black, I am fat, I am also Christian.
I have heard racist jokes and racist comments - Some I am outraged about and some I just shake my head and move on. I have played many games that have had in racial stereotypes and sit through many movies that dont represent black people well.
Being overweight - people have had to tolerate jokes and comments for most of their lives. Thank the Lord for women like Beyonce and Jlo that open the door for women to have curves and now for social media to empower much more to combat against body shaming - but guess what, it still happens.
I like Bill Maher but guess what, he takes pleasure in dissing persons of faith (unless their his friends) as lost or mentally inferior but I still watch many of his shows because I like his comedy and views on other subjects.
What I learned from this situation is that the meme / comment is a much more derogatory thing than I ever knew but at the same time please realize the context. This wasnt a core part or philiosophy in the game, the devs didnt come out and state a preference for a certain way of life etc etc. If you are going to say the sky is falling for every little thing then when major things happen are the masses going to believe you?
This is the situation now with the backlash on political correctness and the popular outrage action against most things outside of the liberal viewpoint. You may have a point but claiming that people should be fired and apologies should be to a certain stard for every incident turns off many people. Again please take this as an observation from someone who is a bit older, living in a part of the world that is a fair bit more conservative and speak with persons who dont necessarily see these situations as cut and dry.
I am all for not offending and to be as inclusive as possible but I realize that my upbringing did give me some biases I have to unlearn and that others may not care to hold those viewpoints - does that mean they should lose their livelihood or should have to always speak in a PC bubble so all can purchase their content with a clear conscience??? I dont know - life here on this planet isnt that easy.
EtcetEraThreadMichelle Obama most admired woman in 2018, followed by Oprah, Hillary and Melanie Trump at #4
ReasonUser Banned (3 Days): Inappropriate commentary and antagonizing other members
I honestly don't get this place at times. If anything my comment is a compliment to Michelle that she looks as good as she does at her age.
Probably the correct way to say it was 'this is one beautiful woman' so don't step on toes but i couldn't give a shit really. Nothing about my comment was offensive in the slightest. Some people need their heads examined if that was an offensive thing to say. If they want to complain, complain to the mods.
EtcetEraThreadTerry Crews criticised for saying children of same-sex parents are ‘severely malnourished’, has since apologized and deleted comment
ReasonUser Banned (Duration Pending): Homophobia
Yes cause black people wouldn’t know anything about that right? I’ve noticed anyone who is remotely pro-lgbtq has said nearly every insult short of using the N word to Terry but he’s hurting them right?
We’ve had mothers and fathers for most human history and now this an “alternative take”? Good know in a couple of years it’s bacially going to be that episode of rick and morty with the Gazorpazorp.
GamingThreadIon Fury devs show signs of transphobia among other issues. [Update: Voidpoint apologizes in statement, see threadmarks]
ReasonUser Banned (Permanent): Dismissing concerns surronding transphobia and homophobia, previous infraction for sexist trolling
I personally believe this whole thing is being blown out of proportion.
I can't necessarily defend their choice of words, but I feel that some of the things they said have some merit, i.e. cancel-culture is bad and parents shouldn't decide if their toddler is trans when said child has no concept of gender identity.
It's certainlt not worth calling for people to be fired and blacklisted forever. That's way too far.
I am willing to hear out opposing viewpoints.
EtcetEraThreadNew NYT Editorial Hire Under Fire for Past Tweets
ReasonUser banned (3 days): concern trolling, arguing in bad faith
See, your post is effective social commentary. I wish she would make Tweets like that...instead of mean statements like "I think white people should be marginalized and discriminated against." I can obviously see how they're satire, but it also could have been handled much more deftly. Stooping to that level doesn't help any sort of discourse because at their core they are fundamentally mean statements that accomplish nothing except promote toxicity. They're not humorous, they don't intelligently convey a point, so why bother posting them?
Why not use a few more words to add some nuance to your argument and promote awareness?
Like instead of:
"I WISH WHITE PEOPLE WOULD BE ARRESTED MORE OFTEN."
"It's a sorry state in our society when black men can't move into an apartment building without having the police called on them for suspected trepassing."
Which one accomplishes more? The latter. What does the inflammatory, mean statement do? Absolutely nothing except shock people...and little else.
I care greatly about the struggles that minorities and women face every day. I know they are profound and I know that as a white woman I am privileged by not having to deal with this shit on a daily basis. I just think we can do better than promoting this kind of inflammatory, mean statement as acceptable and encouraged no matter how it manifests. Luckily, our society as a whole is much more conscious and aware because of the hard work of the progressive movement...but we certainly have a long way to go and there are many areas that we have regressed. I just don't think shocking white people with inflammatory statements really does anything, to be honest. It certainly didn't do anything for me. Is the answer to vitriol...more vitriol?
Her bad jokes are also just...mean:
When did we as a society become so mean? This applies especially to all the people who have harassed her on a daily basis. It just makes me so sad.
GamingThreadRiot Games made two events @ PAX West exclusive to women and non-binary folks. Chaos ensues.
ReasonUser Banned (Duration pending): Transphobia/history of severe infractions
I apologize if I come off as offensive for this, but this is a genuine question. What are the rules for claiming you're "non binary"? Like, if I tell them I identify as a helicopter, would they just let me in? Or what?
Not letting in men, is still technically discriminating, is it not? I understand that it's not/shouldn't be a big deal for us (men), and it isn't but you're still leaving out a group of people.