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EtcetEraThread Activists toppled the Junipero Serra statue in Golden Gate Park in San Francisco
Reason S+ - User Banned (3 months): Dismissing historical atrocities
If you wanna go scorched earth then go scorched earth... but up front about how far you're willing to go. Pretty clear where the line is on statues has moved since a few weeks ago, let alone a few years ago. I'm in favor of at least nuance. There is no perfect person.Oh fuck off. After seeing what's happening to someone like Grant, its clear there's no pleasing some people. That's the point. Who could you live with as a statue? Am I bad person because I think people like Grant brought more good to this world than bad? Do you think I deny their flaws and errors? I think Lincoln is a great man, but one of the biggest "What ifs?" in history for me is what would have happened to slavery had McClellan been a competent general and won the war early on. Because I'm fairly certain slavery would have continued past Lincoln's presidency in an effort to preserve the Union and that makes Lincoln look pretty damn bad.