I might not have expressed myself in the best way, and I don't mean to make it sound like entire countries are garbage. Of course not. I just get really angry when I think or read of LGBTQ people (as well as POC, and just people in general) having their human rights taken away from them because of religious laws of whatever it might be. It's just such bullshit, and I hate it. In this respect I don't think those countries are particularly civilized, just like I don't think it's civilized to stone women to death for cheating on their husbands. But that doesn't mean I think entire countries are uncivilized. I was referring to this particular topic.