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EtcetEraThread New Evidence Supporting Credibility Of Tara Reade’s Allegation Against Joe Biden Emerges
Reason User Banned (Duration Pending): Concern trolling in a topic about sexual assault allegations; history of similar behaviour. Long history of concern trolling in sensitive threads.
It's not leeway or "advocation." I'm not vouching for Biden or arguing he isn't a rapist because he's such a good guy. My thoughts do not stem from a belief he isn't capable of this or wouldn't do it. I'm getting a little bit tired of being told why I hold a position that it seems most other people following the story hold, and having it always come down to being naive, overly optimistic or some other general failure of reasoning. My position is I'm not prepared to call him a rapist based on the evidence we have been presented with to this point. My argument is that isn't an unreasonable position, that it doesn't make me or anyone who holds that position a rape apologist and it's completely compatible with support for believing women and the me too movement. Take accusations seriously and do the investigation. Multiple outlets have released the results of their inquiries. More work is being done and I and everyone else awaits the results. I hope whatever evidence is there is exposed. Any contemporaneous evidence to support the rape allegation would be very helpful. I think the Kavanaugh situation is a good example of what that could look like. Some of those working in the office at the same time have contradicted her descriptions of how the office in general and her role specifically functioned. Clarification there would be great. There's been lots of evidence supporting the allegations of inappropriate touching and violations of personal space. In general I think that's a decent model. Find some reasonable consensus on details with the 21 or so others interviewed. The above assumes she has any desire to keep pushing this publicly. She can do as much or as little as she wants or feels comfortable with. Her general sentiment seems to not specifically be a desire to see anyone punished but to get her story out there. If what she's provided so far is all she is comfortable sharing, that's obviously fine. The people reading those claims and the reporting around them should be free to reach reasonable conclusions based on them. I asked what people felt Biden's options were because he's now on the defensive after the allegation, not because I am interested in giving him leeway.