Yeah something I also see and it is really exhausting when browsing EtceEra. Like this Dave controversial about him being transphobic because he made jokes at their expense. But has anyone who says "Dave sucks" because of that has ever read or see a story about him treating a trans in private or public like shit? I think not and still words are more important to some people than rather the real actions of the individual. Also this forum is super vulnerable when it comes to stir shit up and manipulate certain discussion. The Cenk smear thread was one hell of a prime example of how you can influence a narrative with just a handful of purposefully placed comments tbh.