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GamingThread Witchfire announced (The Astronauts, FPS)
Reason Warned for downplaying the actions of a group founded to harass people
Looks pretty awesome. The photogrammetry of The Vanishing of Ethan Carter was about the only thing going for it (was severely let down by the ending), so to see their technology now being used in a grimdark first person shooter is very exciting. I don't really care about the politics behind the scenes of games. But a at his opinions about the GG movement doesn't reveal anything alarming to me. Criticism of Feminist Frequency is fair - criticism and arguing your side, which he has done, is not harassment. There are a ton of counter point videos to the Tropes vs Women series on Youtube, enough to lead me to believe that there is an argument worth having there, instead of just accepting that what Sarkeesian says goes or you are a misogynist. He has also raised fairly legitimate points about the nature of games journalism. Just a few years ago it was a hot topic with Dorito Pope and swag bags, yet is now fairly taboo to even talk about it in case you appear as pro-Gamergate. Nothing he's said leads me to believe that he endorses the toxic part of Gamergate or far right ideology. It reminds me of Trump voters. It would be wrong to assume that the only reason people supported Trump would be due to bigotry, in the same way that saying a person who is pro-Gamergate automatically means pro-harassment. I've seen enough intelligent, nuanced opinions from both sides of the spectrum to realize it's not as simple as feminists / Trump / Gamergaters / liberals / right wingers = evil. If people don't want to support it because they want to stay as far away from these viewpoints as they can, that's fine by me. I don't think any of these developers are Stormfront-lite monsters though and wouldn't frown upon giving them money. It's the same deal with the developers of The Last Night and Kingdom Come - both controversies turned out to be tepid at best. That's all I have to say on it really.