I don't know much about Sargon. From what I seen of him, I'd consider him a libertarian and anti-PC. Rogan had Gavin on before most of the recent controversy. Gavin is a comedian. I'm not a fan of his personality or comedy but that's fine. He's also a rabble rouser and professional troll. He's going to say things to get attention and grab attention. I know we live in the age of social media and headlines and that clickbait drives the narrative but when you actually sit down and listen to these people, they are not the devils they are made out to be by the headlines. Again, you don't have to agree with them and I certainly don't on a lot of issues but it's OK to disagree with people and still be civil.