EtcetEraThreadGlenn Greenwald resigns from The Intercept
ReasonUser Threadbanned (pending further review): JAQing off
I believe the truth is important and thus far we have no evidence to believe that the laptop is Russian disinformation. No one in Biden's camp has ever claimed the emails and texts aren't real. Both of those factual statements lead me to believe we should be okay with raising questions about the information laid out in the leaked material. If those questions lead to nothingburgers, that's fine. But we shouldn't be afraid of having the questions asked.
EtcetEraThreadAOC Says She Woke Up to Stacks of Photos From FBI Showing 'People Who Want to Kill' Her
ReasonUser Banned (1 Month): Inappropriate Sexist Commentary; Prior Ban for Downplaying Sexual Assault
A healthier, more normal person that was a bit too interested in AOC would dream of dating her not murdering her. If you have those kinds of thoughts you need to seek help asap.
EtcetEraThreadDo you agree with this Joe Biden statement?
ReasonUser Banned: Inflammatory comparison
There is no overthrowing the system anymore, at least not in today's America. A bunch of people can go cosplay as anarchists and throw bricks at buildings for a few weeks, but that's not going to affect even a fraction of the larger population that will still be comfortably carrying on as if nothing's happening and will still be propping up the system.
So that boils down violence to just raising public awareness, basically. But you can raise public awareness just fine with peaceful protests, and you still ultimately need elected officials to enact the changes you want from the protests, so voting is still equally as important as protesting.
I suppose you could directly affect change through violence by going full blown terrorist and taking over cities with guerilla warfare tactics. But honestly, fuck off if you seriously support something like that.
So yes, I agree with Biden's statement. And reading all this edgelord shit promoting violence on this forum is starting to get insufferable. It's like when 4chan cheers on school shooters.
EtcetEraThreadReuters: Three dead in knife attack in French church, woman beheaded
ReasonUser banned (1 month): Downplaying Islamophobia and talking down to a minority member’s concerns over a series of posts
I wasn't equating the two or didn't mean to if it comes across like I was. And while you never said anything about Muslim leaders it sure read to me as though you were saying people shouldn't have to distance themselves or condemn these attacks as they are a small minority of the Muslim community which it really shouldn't matter how large a percentage extremist ideology makes up, it should be called out and condemned, especially from people within that community that hold power.
I was hoping to understand why you feel personally responsible when people call for Muslims to denounce these attacks as I just don't understand why someone would feel that way. A woman has had her head cut off because of cartoons and you're upset that people want Muslims to condemn it because it might make people feel responsible. Which is something I just can't get my head around.Why are you assuming the condemnation of these attacks is directly aimed at decent people or even sane ones? The hope is that with more outright condemnation from people with power and familiar ties we can prevent more attacks like these in the future by preventing the ideology to spread. Religion allows people to do awful things to other humans while feeling completely righteous while doing it. Do you think the person cutting off heads in the name of God was always going to end up hurting others? I don't believe they would and I think its wrong to say only evil people fall prey to extremism.
I sure as hell hope we lived in a world where every white supremacist Christian terrorist was denounced by everyone in that community and within the family. White supremacy wouldn't be so damn widespread if people were willing to condemn it at every opportunity.
EtcetEraThreadReuters: Three dead in knife attack in French church, woman beheaded
ReasonUser banned (1 month): Islamophobia
Yea, same.
I was taking a "to each their own" with beliefs, but now I'm actively annoyed.
On the topic of "Islam is evil" or whatever - it is absolutely undeniable that in the present day you see more violent rhetoric acted upon using Islam as the tool/excuse.
Christians are content with just using racism and/or sexism.
The other religions seem to have their shit in order at least (and no I don't consider Israel's actions as a state to be reflective of Judaism - fuck Netanyahu).
EtcetEraThreadReuters: Three dead in knife attack in French church, woman beheaded
ReasonUser Banned (1 Month): Victim Blaming
If drawing a specific cartoon will, without fail, cause some psycho to kill one of your neighbors, then at what point does responsibility become shared?
Is the solution just an endless cycle of provocation in order to reaffirm your individual freedom until there are no more zealots or no more neighbors?
A consequentialist would argue that “It’s just a cartoon” is inherently flawed. Maybe that approach would work to shame people out of radicalization in a different universe, but it seems to not work here.
EtcetEraThreadReuters: Three dead in knife attack in French church, woman beheaded
ReasonUser banned (duration pending admin review): Xenophobic dogwhistle, prior severe infraction for antisemitism
Can’t say I disagree with Macron’s stance on this and closing down the mosque of the teacher beheader which was peddling extremist philosophy to its attendants. I’m sorry but we have a different set of beliefs in the west over this stuff and a right to freedom of expression. Forbidding us from expressing that should never be allowed and if you hold such an extreme belief (that leads mentally deranged people to kill and behead innocent people) then you have no place here.
We wouldn’t welcome in a religious cult if they abused children, so why allow these kinds of people?
There’s Islamophonia for sure which I detest, but I don’t think it’s wrong to discriminate against people with an absolutely beyond fucked moral compass to the point where drawing cartoons in any way justifies even a modicum of violence, nevermind this insanity.
EtcetEraThreadJoe Rogan hosts Alex Jones on Spotify podcast despite ban
ReasonUser Banned (Duration pending admin review): Transphobia over a series of posts
I mean if we're just looking at that tweet I don't disagree. Testosterone develops bone density which is a permanent change to the body. It's not TERFy to think it's insane/dangerous to allow people with such a physical advantage fight other women. Saying the slur word isn't great but also I have the capacity to understand it's a comedian trying to provoke. I don't take my comedians seriously or look at them for ethical guidance. I'm not sure why the world seems to think that's how things should be now.
Besides the point - I think Tim is hilarious most of the time. The best comedians have the ability to completely fuck your moral compass and leave you stunned and gasping for breath. I wouldn't quite put Tim in that category - maybe someone like Hans Teeuwen.
EtcetEraThreadEHRC report into the Labour Party (UK) - Update Corbyn Suspended
ReasonUser banned (duration tbd by admin review): Antisemitic conspiracy theories
I mean, that example isn't Corbyn though?
And it's very arguable.
This is pretty clearly a zionist hit job, and the EHCR isn't actually the ECHR, which would've been an actual damning judgement
I mean, the entire thing happened, yes, but it's so milquetoast you'd find violations of this grade in any major organization, and the entire thing continues to be a coverup to keep defending the absurd, immoral stance of supporting Israel.
EtcetEraThreadDo you agree with this Joe Biden statement?
ReasonUser banned (1 month): Generalizing liberals as "awful people" and enablers of fascism over multiple posts. Long history of infractions for inflammatory posting and general hostility.
What do you expect out of a liberal. They're awful people.
Of course liberalEra are here to tell us they're the grown ups, and that we don't understand politics. Where would we be without them, i'm so glad they're here to lead by our small brain hand.Sounds about white.
EtcetEraThreadFighting cock kills police chief in Philippine raid
ReasonUser Banned (1 week): Modwhining
What a stupid ban. American police stop illegal things, too, yet plenty of us would get a chuckle out of one dying in an absurd way. I guess this cop was tired of murdering drug offenders so decided to do something worthwhile.
EtcetEraThreadThe Lincoln Project Brings Back "Honey Badger" Guy for Parody Ad "Covey Spreader"
Red Text The fact that there is a segment of the GOP that is willing to go against the bulk of the party is a newsworthy, and quite unusual, thing. However, we don't need threads for the ads themselves.
EtcetEraThreadJoe Rogan hosts Alex Jones on Spotify podcast despite ban
ReasonUser Banned (1 Month): Dismissive trolling, thread derailment, and antagonizing other users over multiple posts; prior infractions for similar behavior
Just don't listen guys lol. Why does this bother y'all so much.
EtcetEraThreadDo you agree with this Joe Biden statement?
ReasonUser banned (3 weeks): Dismissive and insensitive commentary in a sensitive thread
You realize the majority of the country votes this way, right? Republicans and moderate Democrat voters don’t get most of the policies they want from the candidates they elect. You act as if you’re the only ones not getting exactly what you want exactly when you want it. Them being more regular and reliable voters makes them more valuable to the respective parties than activists who don’t vote in every election. Stuff like the judiciary took a long time for Republicans to transform while their voters reliably voted Republican under Obama to keep him from implementing policy even though they didn’t get their own policies passed.
The party can’t ignore you if a larger and larger bloc in congress represent your ideas. AOC, Jayapal, Markey, etc won seats in safe blue districts. Showing up and electing more like them moves the party left while not risking taking steps backwards by losing the majority altogether.
EtcetEraThreadTexas doctor, 28, dies of Covid: 'She wore the same mask for weeks, if not months' - US health workers lost to Covid skew younger and lack protective
ReasonUser Banned (1 Week): Antagonizing another user, prior bans for hostility
Why do you keep posting covid fearmongering articles
EtcetEraThreadScary Statistic Predicts Growing US Political Violence — Whatever Happens On Election Day
ReasonUser threadbanned: Antagonizing another member over a series of posts
You insiting a civil war is going to happen is not a healthy discussion. It's delusional and dangerous rhetoric to be spouting around on a far left forum that has an issue with frequent suicide posts.
All it takes is one person to take these threads too far and do something stupid in real life, which is why I don't get why this delusional civil war talk isn't outright banned on this forum.
EtcetEraThread‘Boycott French products’ launched over Macron’s Islam comments
ReasonUser banned (permanent): Inflammatory generalizations are inappropriate even if you include your own country. Off-topic derailment and downplaying Islamophobia in the west over a series of posts. Account in junior phase.
EtcetEraThread‘Boycott French products’ launched over Macron’s Islam comments
ReasonUser banned (permanent): Invoking Charlie Hebdo as a reason a murder victim should have acted differently, prior severe infractions for a racist joke and whataboutism in a race thread
Seems pretty rude. These cartoons have caused giant controversy multiple times, it doesn’t matter that he showed Jewish and Christian cartoons as well.
Here:He was being completely insensitive to Muslims feelings. Haven’t you heard of ?
Hugely controversial. Or the time Charlie Hebdo insulted them multiple times?
This was gigantically controversial.
EtcetEraThread‘Boycott French products’ launched over Macron’s Islam comments
ReasonUser banned (1 month): Suggesting a victim was deliberately "baiting" his killer into murdering him
Do you not know what a dog whistle is?
Like can you really tell me people at an event like this are tolerant people?:
Same shit different country. Drawings of Muhammad are basically trolling done by islamophobes to bait radicals into attacking them so they can exploit the tragedy to justify bigoted policy.
France and Britain are highly responsible for the rise of religious extremism and radical fundamentalism in West Asia and North Africa. Their colonial legacy has left an entire region highly politically unstable and thousands of people radicalized by those circumstances, and that's to say nothing of their present day profiting from the military industrial complex and their participation in America's forever wars. Any violence that results from that can simply be described as the chickens coming home to roost.
As always, fuck France.
EtcetEraThread‘Boycott French products’ launched over Macron’s Islam comments
ReasonUser banned (1 month): Suggesting a victim knowingly provoked his own murder
People can not agree with the teachings, but they can at least respect them by not throwing insults.
They know that it's in appropriate, but they do it anyway. It's literally an insult which can lead to extrimism acts.
EtcetEraThreadSenate has voted to confirm Amy Coney Barrett as a Supreme Court justice
ReasonUser threadbanned, pending further review: ignoring staff guidelines
Several? She didn’t go until the final weeks and not nearly enough as she should’ve. Plus she didn’t go to Wisconsin at all.Sorry but I’d rather blame her for running a terrible campaign than blame the people who didn’t vote for her like some of the people in this thread are doing.
