EtcetEraThreadCoronavirus Discussion Thread (See Staff Post) [UPDATE: WHO declares global emergency. See threadmarks]
ReasonUser Banned (permanent): Racism, xenophobia
I hate to say it but, it might be a case of most Japanese(Asian) people not being able to tell the difference between each other at the end of the day. If a customer doesn't do anything besides get in (with an app even) and leave, how would they know or even remember what non-japanese they encountered that day? If it was a German based disease and people in NY were put on full alert and random white dude takes the metro, would people be as freeked out because Americans didn't do enough to stop it, how could Joe Blow not notice?
EtcetEraThreadSales at Chinese Restaurants Plummet Following Coronavirus Panic
ReasonUser Banned (3 months): excusing xenophobia
I think the fear is that Chinese Americans are more likely to have had contact with Chinese people, or even possibly have traveled to China recently themselves, than average.
That, plus evidence that some carriers of Coronavirus may be asymptomatic.
It’s an infinitesimal chance, but I get it.
To play devil's advocate for a moment, there are likely to be people (specifically people born as boys) who may still be going through puberty at age 16. From that point of view I feel like I understand the age limit for changing one's gender being set at 18.
This. People are freaking out. There are headlines of how people have been evacuating various Chinese cities to head elsewhere. Stories about how people who have visited China have landed in other countries with the virus. Logical or not, people are connecting a greater perceived risk of catching the virus from a place which may be linked to it.
Rather than xenophobia this is mostly good old fashioned paranoia, if the news were constantly reporting cases of people dying from some tree virus people would be avoiding parks.
ReasonUser Banned (Duration Pending): Mansplaining and sexism and trolling over a series of posts
so I’ve been here “listening” to what everyone said and taking it to heart instead of debating or arguing, and I appreciate the input. I think it’s good to learn from mistakes, I’ve never really been in this kind of situation before usually people in my circle enjoy a bit of healthy debate, and perhaps this wasn’t healthy debate. And I’m at fault. Which is totally ok and why I asked. It’s good to learn yea? I’d love to respond to everyone but instead I’ll reply to two for now.
First:you are the guy that evaded a permaban and types all kinds of moral ethical dilemma bullshit about that ban, as well as about weird ass shit in the nintendo direct threads. Not sure what your deal is but seem like youve got some problems. Probably shouldn’t be commenting on other people.
Also the last thread wasn’t a troll, it was a real situation and real story played up for some laughs. Not all jokes hit, but if all jokes are trolls then we gotta ban about half the board. Get over yourself.now I don’t know if you deliberately misread what I said, but the first thing I said that I agreed with them that women shouldn’t be made to feel uncomfortable, sexually or not. I am totally onboard with that and I explained that, and also that I didn’t know what the actress said or what she felt so I couldn’t really argue about that. I think the biggest thing was I kept going when I obviously should have stopped, and my gfs sister (mainly) kept insisting that the point wasn’t the foot stuff and Tarantino, but being uncomfortable in general. Again I’m ok to be wrong, I’m happy to learn from mistakes, thats what makes us better people, and I won’t make that mistake again, but at no point did I even insinuate that it’s ok to force women to do something against their will. I’m still ok to be the asshole, I accept that and I’ll apologize to her.
Edit: and the people harping on the marvel statement that that would be the part that people turn on me ... again that was a joke, and a hopefully obvious one. It might not have landed, but it’s a joke about how defensive marvel fans are around here. Whether you find it funny or not it’s ok, just relax a little bit.
EtcetEraThreadMartin Freeman (The Hobbit, Fargo) openly discusses hitting his two children and referring to them as "little f**kers" [see staff post]
ReasonUser Banned (2 weeks): Downplaying child abuse; ignoring staff post
I agree with this. My upbringing was a huge cycle of abuse till I was a grown up. Even when I didn't deserve it I got physically punished/hit/abused.
A smack in 15 years is not abuse in my book.
EtcetEraThreadMartin Freeman (The Hobbit, Fargo) openly discusses hitting his two children and referring to them as "little f**kers" [see staff post]
ReasonUser Banned (2 weeks): Misrepresenting concerns of child abuse over multiple posts
Yes because I suggested beating my child.
Maybe I made my point poorly but some people in this thread seem to think that any kind of hitting or grabbing even when the child is in mortal danger or at risk of harming themselves is a bad thing.
If my child is about to walk into traffic or jam a fork where it doesn't belong I'll be using whatever force is necessary to remove that risk of harm.
Seems like most people can't differentiate between physical violence and a smack.
Kids will not suffer from a smack or two in their childhood if the rest of the parenting is on point.
I have no issues with that. If its a tap on the hand or a pat on the bum. Never the face though. But I find locking them in a room to be quite effective.
99% of children who have ever lived have been physically disciplined by their parents. As long as it isn’t part of a larger cycle of abuse, getting a smack and being called an asshole when they deserve it is not going to damage a child.
EtcetEraThreadGun-loving alt-right darling Kaitlin Bennett gets bullied off Ohio University campus.
ReasonUser Banned (Duration Pending): Concern trolling about the alt-right, account in junior phase.
Don’t know her but I figure I would wholeheartedly disagree with her stance on weapons. That being said, that looked really horrible. Are those supposed to be the people I agree with, behaving like that?
I’m old...
EtcetEraThreadDemocratic Presidential Primary |February OT| It Can't be Worse than Iowa, Right? (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
ReasonUser banned (duration pending): ignoring staff post with regards to sniping and hostility + trolling and hostility over several posts and threads + long history of infractions
EtcetEraThreadBerlin Freezes Rents for 5 Years in a Bid to Slow Gentrification
ReasonUser Banned (1 Day): Hostility; Prior Related Infractions
Stop all the cringe landlord rhetoric, stop browsing economically clueless tankie subs like chapo and breadtube and stick to what economists say. Listen to the experts, like we kept telling all the Brexiters. You need to build more. Fixing the price does the opposite - it disincentivizes building. I won't repeat what you can find with a single google search. Economists have exhaustively studied rent control and the concensus is crystal clear. Honestly, I sometimes use rent control as a way to probe how one arrives at their decisions. If you are in favor of it, I know for a you've never read a study on it or have any clue of its ramifications. Makes me wonder whether your other political views are as thinly founded.
EtcetEraThreadSales at Chinese Restaurants Plummet Following Coronavirus Panic
ReasonUser Banned (duration pending): Dismissing concerns of xenophobia; Concern trolling. Prior severe infractions.
What's worse is when people get labeled horrific shit just because they're ignorant to the facts. These people are dumb fucks, no doubt. But being dumb and uneducated does not make you a racist. Besides, people who are racist against Asian people weren't flocking to Chinatown before this, anyway.
EtcetEraThreadHis dialysis center won’t allow his life-size Trump cutout, so this man refuses to go
ReasonUser Banned (2 Weeks): Inflammatory False Equivalence and Antagonizing Other Users Over Multiple Posts
I don't know him or his story, and neither do you. It's funny that you bring up nazis, because as we know, a major aim of their self-targeted propaganda was to dehumanize the Jews so that they could rationalize their expulsion or death with no moral conflict and minimal cognitive dissonance. I see the same thing happening today on both ends of the political spectrum.
Comparing people ITT to Nazis is NOT what I'm doing with this observation (nor do I even privately think that's at all merited) so don't take that out of context. I'm nonetheless struck by a pang of irony due to people in this thread breezily dismissing a human life because of assumptions they've made about him as an "other," and the categories they've assigned to him based on an article (or, more likely, just the information in the OP).
I know how insufferable I sound, and if this thread was just filled with people calling this dude an idiot and making fun of his shoes that'd be one thing. It's the wishful thinking that his end should come and that we'd be better for it that rubs me the wrong way.I have zero issues with people calling out his idiocy and mocking him for it. That's not what I'm talking about here. If you feel like I'm being self righteous you need to take a step back and ask yourself why. I'm just having a hard conversation.
EtcetEraThreadCoronavirus Discussion Thread (See Staff Post) [UPDATE: WHO declares global emergency. See threadmarks]
ReasonUser Banned (3 Days): Ignoring staff post with regard to unverified information and fearmongering
Holy shit at the chinese video of an infected woman and a man purposely coughing/spitting on the elevator buttons caught on cctv. I don't want to find out how their minds work.
Not sure if already uploaded online as I only seen it on whatsapp.
EtcetEraThreadDemocratic Presidential Primary |February OT| It Can't be Worse than Iowa, Right? (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
ReasonUser Banned (2 Weeks): Hostility; Prior Bans for Hostility
Oh fuck off with your dismissive bullshit, you're in here whining about the term Bernie bro and you have the gall to then go up to me and say "aren't there more important things to worry about"
Even if all 5,000 of those assholes on Twitter were white males, it would still be dismissive to continue using the "Obama Boys" of this election to dilute the actual support amongst minorities and women that he does have. A niche group of people being mean online is hardly worth the erasure of Bernie's actual base.
EtcetEraThreadFinland's prime minister said Nordic countries do a better job of embodying the American dream than the US
ReasonUser Banned (1 Month): Dismissing and speaking over the concerns of minority members.
I find it interesting how Americans always bring up "but what about people of colour" on this threads, as if the US was so great with them.
They're just as likely to encounter racism in Europe, true. But what about their economic mobility? What about the statistical chances of being shot by police or being separated from your parents and thrown in a cage?
EtcetEraThreadDemocratic Presidential Primary |February OT| It Can't be Worse than Iowa, Right? (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
ReasonUser Banned (1 Week): Downplaying Concerns and Whataboutism
Also, since Cenk was a horrible person and has apparently apologized and all is forgiven, I’m quite interested in why said logic doesn’t extend to the piece of shit who is Bloom?
Someone who was a Republican, said horrible shit, but apologized and is now running as a Democrat.
Funny how that works I guess
EtcetEraThreadJeff Bezos commits $10 billion to fight climate change
ReasonUser Banned (3 Days): Trolling over a series of posts.
why do I have to use quotes
Where in the english language does it say I have to use quotes
I hate conformist fucks. I'm not saying you are, but you sure are treading the status quo. I'm side eyeing you right now. I bet you voted Biden.
EtcetEraThreadDemocratic Presidential Primary |February OT| It Can't be Worse than Iowa, Right? (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
ReasonUser Banned (permanent): troll account
An interesting perspective from Glenn if we really want to go down this route. I'm not gonna criticize Warren and act like she's a horrible person just because supporters of candidates sometimes say shitty things.
EtcetEraThreadDemocratic Presidential Primary |February OT| It Can't be Worse than Iowa, Right? (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
ReasonUser Banned (duration pending): dismissing bigotry, previous severe ban for the same
I have spent 12, and i say your wrong. Also acting like him going on Rogan's show and saying to his(rogans) viewers that he has his endorsement is just smart strategy. He doesnt have to believe in everything joe rogan believes to gain votes. Indeed, he made his leftist progressive case to Rogan and Rogan hiimself endorsed Sanders. Sanders didnt give a single inch on anything, he had rogan come to his point of view. That's a whole lot better than pretending to be a epublican to gain votes like Biden. or actually being a republican like Bloomberg.
I also fully disagree with you on Cenk. he was a republican for a long time and indeed, as he would tell you, was a pretty terrible dude. But people change and evolve and there's no bigger example than him who fights for leftist causes and social justice and economic advocacy every day.
EtcetEraThreadDemocratic Presidential Primary |February OT| It Can't be Worse than Iowa, Right? (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
ReasonUser Banned (duration pending): minimizing bigotry, previous ban for the same
I think the Cenk issue is a really good litmus test if you care about progressive policies or are just in it for the purity tests.
Like do you think that Cenk being in that seat would not be a net positive vs. Christy Smith?
EtcetEraThreadTom Morello does customer service like no other
ReasonUser Banned (2 Weeks): Inflammatory Point of Comparison
Nah, it’s the incessant whining about concert ticket prices like people are entitled to go to shows or something. I was 16 when I bought those tickets with money I earned from working a minimum wage job. If a person has not increased their wage in 25 years they aren’t trying. Go learn a trade. If the price was too high the tix wouldn’t sell.
You find me someone who isn’t “hypocritical” to some degree... I’ll be over here waiting. Without holding my breath. Why does Rage have to hold theirselves to a higher standard than anyone else? Do we wish/celebrate gangster rappers would/do “keep it real” by shooting people who look at them wrong? It’s art, a fucking product not water. You can live without it same as I can live without an NSX.
Why are people acting like Depp also being a victim and leaking evidence instantly absolves him magically and makes him not an abuser as well? This is very troubling.
Also why should Heard lose her job when he hasn't lost his and kept making Fantastic Beasts movies even before people knew how complicated the actual situation really is?
EtcetEraThreadDemocratic Presidential Primary |February OT| It Can't be Worse than Iowa, Right? (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
ReasonUser Banned (Duration Pending): Ignoring the Staff Post with Regards to Metacommentary and Hostility; Inflammatory Point of Comparison
You bernie people around here are delusional as fuck. The average Bernie bro on twitter is just as toxic if not more so then the trump fuckheads. Say a word that is even slightly not positive about Bernie and its like the Mongol fucking horde comes rolling in to rape and pillage
EtcetEraThreadDemocratic Presidential Primary |February OT| It Can't be Worse than Iowa, Right? (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
ReasonUser Banned (1 Week): Ignoring the Staff Post With Regards to Metacommentary
Let’s be real here, there’s nothing Warren could do besides drop out and endorse Bernie that you people wouldn’t bitch and moan about.
She attacks other candidates; I wish she would focus on policy. She focuses on policy; she just seems so boring. She avoids bringing up that she’s a woman; man why isn’t she talking about her experience more. She talks about being a woman and facing sexism; Omg always with the identity politics. She panders to center left voters; what a misstep jeez. She panders to far left voters; she’s still unelectable, did you know she used to be a Republican???
Just take the masks off already.
EtcetEraThreadDemocratic Presidential Primary |February OT| It Can't be Worse than Iowa, Right? (Discussion Guidelines in OP)
ReasonUser Banned (permanent): Inflammatory support
Depends. If it's Biden or Mayor Pete, I am honestly undecided. If it's Bernie, which seems likely, I will 100% vote Trump.
Although Bernie I think has a decent shot in the general. Makes it two energized bases against each other and it will inevitably become somewhat a battle between capitalism vs socialism. Bloomberg would be a disaster for Democrats in my opinion, although his money has certainly improved his polling numbers among Democrats which is astonishing.
speaking of Virginia I see a few Democrats went against Northam and joined Republicans and voted to shelf the assault weapons ban for a year. Including two Dems from Northern Virginia I believe.
EtcetEraThreadI'm tried of rude customers (customer service stories) [See Staff Post]
ReasonUser Banned (Permanent): Persistent modwhining, dismissive commentary and 'reverse racism' rhetoric in a thread about racism. Account in junior phase.
You banned a person for mentioning skin colour yet you do likewise. You banned someone who was made feel uncomfortable and had the power to confront it in public. Is #metoo a thing only if the alleged accuser is white and a man? I thought we we better than that.
As for your petty response there, no I don't. I worked in retail for years and I current work for a government department with continuous dealings with the public. I understand how to talk/deal with people. Your quick jump to deflect and accuse me without explaining your position leads me to believe that some of the poor customer interactions may be your own making.
Either rescind the ban for the other person or take the hit and face the banhammer. Don't take the coward's way out and ban me for threadwhining, as you'll only be proving my point.
