EtcetEraThreadShoppers angry over Walmart charging more for plus-size clothing
ReasonUser Banned (1 Week): Inflammatory + Dehumanizing Language
These clothes are a different, non-standard size that is probably manufactured in a separate lot. I don't see the issue with this; specialized products always cost more.
Maybe if you're so fat that normal human-sized clothes no longer fit you, you should take that as a sign to try to lose some weight?
EtcetEraThreadVictim of racist exchange at Edmonton supermarket recorded video to raise awareness of Islamophobia
ReasonUser banned (5 days) for downplaying the bigotry in Islamophobia and inflammatory derailment
I have watched the video and read the article, and while the man in the wheelchair was an ass, I didn't hear anything racist (unless I missed it).
Somewhat on topic, I am glad that this kind of clothing is getting banned in more and more parts of Europe.
This encapsulation has no place in a free and open society where men and women are equals. By wearing this, you are walking around with a permanent wall in front of you that anonymizes you and prevents normal human interaction with the rest of society, completely excluding yourself.
It is also sexist, because men don't have to wear it, meaning it goes against the principle of gender equality.
I don't see anything fascist about Trump or Bolsonaro. Fascism was an ideology which advocated that everything should go to the state. Libertarian governments like these propose the opposite. They want to diminish the size of the state and give more economical freedom to people.
Besides, it's pretty pathetic to label someone you don't like with a name that doesn't even means what you're trying to say.
The way I see it, the world nowadays is taking a turn for so much leftism that is unbearable. It's everywhere, from politics to cinema, videogames, music, etc. It's refreshing to have a more conservative government sometimes.
GamingThreadVG24: Valkyria Chronicles 4’s sexual harassment problem is unacceptable in 2018 (READ OP)
ReasonUser Banned (1 Week): Ignoring modpost and a history of threadwhining about social issues
I really hope the next Fire Emblem won't have such stuff.
Not because i care. I don't give a damn personally but seeing those talks about the game to talk about social issues, EXCEPT actually the...game, you know?
That is exhausting for me.
I still remember the "Soleil" case for FE Fates that take the news about everything except saying Conquest was one of the best campain in the whole FE saga.
Depending on the specifics, I have and will continue to be highly annoyed when I see "white people" this or that without the qualifier SOME white people or MOST white people or whatever. If you mean some white people as opposed to the racist generalization of all white people, then say that.
If you think I'm fragile for that, cool. I don't care what any racist of any color thinks.
GamingThreadIon Fury devs show signs of transphobia among other issues. [Update: Voidpoint apologizes in statement, see threadmarks]
ReasonUser Banned (Permanent): Dismissing concerns surronding transphobia and homophobia, previous infraction for sexist trolling
I personally believe this whole thing is being blown out of proportion.
I can't necessarily defend their choice of words, but I feel that some of the things they said have some merit, i.e. cancel-culture is bad and parents shouldn't decide if their toddler is trans when said child has no concept of gender identity.
It's certainlt not worth calling for people to be fired and blacklisted forever. That's way too far.
I am willing to hear out opposing viewpoints.
GamingThreadRiot Games made two events @ PAX West exclusive to women and non-binary folks. Chaos ensues.
ReasonUser Banned (Duration pending): Transphobia/history of severe infractions
I apologize if I come off as offensive for this, but this is a genuine question. What are the rules for claiming you're "non binary"? Like, if I tell them I identify as a helicopter, would they just let me in? Or what?
Not letting in men, is still technically discriminating, is it not? I understand that it's not/shouldn't be a big deal for us (men), and it isn't but you're still leaving out a group of people.
GamingThreadCyberpunk 2077 Twitter account makes transphobic joke (READ OP)
ReasonUser Banned (Duration Pending): Dismissing and tone policing concerns regarding transphobia. Account still in junior phase.
I am black, I am fat, I am also Christian.
I have heard racist jokes and racist comments - Some I am outraged about and some I just shake my head and move on. I have played many games that have had in racial stereotypes and sit through many movies that dont represent black people well.
Being overweight - people have had to tolerate jokes and comments for most of their lives. Thank the Lord for women like Beyonce and Jlo that open the door for women to have curves and now for social media to empower much more to combat against body shaming - but guess what, it still happens.
I like Bill Maher but guess what, he takes pleasure in dissing persons of faith (unless their his friends) as lost or mentally inferior but I still watch many of his shows because I like his comedy and views on other subjects.
What I learned from this situation is that the meme / comment is a much more derogatory thing than I ever knew but at the same time please realize the context. This wasnt a core part or philiosophy in the game, the devs didnt come out and state a preference for a certain way of life etc etc. If you are going to say the sky is falling for every little thing then when major things happen are the masses going to believe you?
This is the situation now with the backlash on political correctness and the popular outrage action against most things outside of the liberal viewpoint. You may have a point but claiming that people should be fired and apologies should be to a certain stard for every incident turns off many people. Again please take this as an observation from someone who is a bit older, living in a part of the world that is a fair bit more conservative and speak with persons who dont necessarily see these situations as cut and dry.
I am all for not offending and to be as inclusive as possible but I realize that my upbringing did give me some biases I have to unlearn and that others may not care to hold those viewpoints - does that mean they should lose their livelihood or should have to always speak in a PC bubble so all can purchase their content with a clear conscience??? I dont know - life here on this planet isnt that easy.
GamingThreadIs Kojima the M. Night Shyamalan of the gaming industry?
ReasonUser Banned (3 Days): Mocking an Ethnic Name
Kojima is a good and most importantly consistent director and producer. Warts and all. The 6/10 MGSV GZ paid demo is the worst that ever came from him in a directing capacity. Shama Lama Ding Dong, well. The 6th Sense and Unbreakable are good but not great, 7/10. His other work is average at best and utter dog shit at worst. His body of work is barely worth talking about and he is overshadowed by his arrogance and insanity. He keeps finding work though regardless of what happens as he somewhat knows how to budget. Also this:
You are the worst 2002.
I get the feeling some people are genuinely upset there wasn't a violent incel attack at a Joker screening this weekend.
IT'S JUST A MOVIE
I didn't even go see this movie because it doesn't really look like it's up my alley, but the constant attempts to make it something more than it is have been so tiring.
GamingThreadPewDiePie attempts to distance himself from Christchurch Mosque shooter who pledged support (READ THREADMARKS)
ReasonUser Banned (2 Weeks): Downplaying Hate Speech
It's interesting to watch what is being highlithed about this in news articles and in this very thread.
It's not the fact that guys like this have access to guns, or the rise of extreme views in this day and age that sometimes conclude in tragedies like this horrific event.
No, it has to come down to damn vidya games and because of this and that youtuber, while people shouting "sjw libtard" and "neckbeard gamergater nazi" at each other.
Show some class people, let's just try to make at least this community a bit less shitty and mourn these poor souls who died for this very sad and stupid reason in that church without jumping at each others throat.
EtcetEraThreadBoys Pin Down Black Classmate, Cut Her Dreadlocks at Virginia School [UPDATE: Assault faked. See threadmarks]
ReasonUser Banned (permanent): Misrepresenting and mischaracterizing the concerns of others; numerous prior bans for inflammatory behavior including rationalizing violence against peaceful protesters
Just having a normal one on super progressive ResetEra, advancing the cause by calling for violence on... *checks*... innocent children, based on unproven accusations.
Handing out bans to people spotting holes in Jussie Smollet's story was hilarious, but this might just be a new low.
I wonder if people will take this opportunity for some urgently needed self-reflectiHAHAhaha, nah, I can't finish that sentence with a straight face.
EtcetEraThreadTerry Crews criticised for saying children of same-sex parents are ‘severely malnourished’, has since apologized and deleted comment
ReasonUser Banned (Duration Pending): Homophobia
Yes cause black people wouldn’t know anything about that right? I’ve noticed anyone who is remotely pro-lgbtq has said nearly every insult short of using the N word to Terry but he’s hurting them right?
We’ve had mothers and fathers for most human history and now this an “alternative take”? Good know in a couple of years it’s bacially going to be that episode of rick and morty with the Gazorpazorp.
EtcetEraThreadSpineless Democrats and Republicans overwhelmingly vote to table impeachment resolution against the occupant of the White House
ReasonUser banned (permanent): Long history of disruptive and aggressive behavior, hostility towards members and staff
FTFY. Era. We are fucking doomed. I just hope that when shit hits the fan, I will be at some place . Brazil isn't one of them, neither is the USA. I don't see how things could possibly get better without the escalation of a full blown world war, and it sucks because I made my living believing in the law. Believing in the system. Believing that people like me could hack the system and make this a better place.
Era like a safe place, but fucking . If my head wasn't in a cool place, this place would be fucking toxic as fuck for me. And we question ourselves because shit like Etika happens. We are killing each other. We are punching down each other.
If I get a ban out of this, that's fucking ok. I just ended a relationship but I'm eager to meet this girl that I've been quite infatuated with but fate magically brought us together after we both just broke up. I don't really care about box office records and shit like that. I care about things that make me hopeful in the world we are fucking living in. I care about escapism, in order to be ready to fight in real life, with real world issues.
Do you want to break me, clique Era?
The real world around us is worst than you but not even them could.
Would I be sad if I got banned? Yeah. I would. But I don't fucking feel welcome here, and when this place started, it felt like a safe haven from all the shit that is going on in the real world. I don't really blame Era for becoming a fucking monster. The world went to fucking shit. I get that, but I wish we could stand together, you know? My home team just got a big win. My life doesn't suck. I'm proud of the life I lead up until here, regardless how hopeless everything else, including fucking Era makes me feel. But this is the nightmare we are all living in, isn't? "Go out there and vote". I will. And I will fight. I have all the reasons for it.
I don't feel like I belong in this place. I'm fucking sick of the cliques and get hammered down every fucking day. This was supposed to be fucking safe haven for people like us. I've met crazy nice people. But the bad far much outweighs the good, and this goes all the way to the fucking top chain. Yep, I'm drunk, happy, crying and kinda proud of myself for having the guts to spell this shit out. We were supposed to be way fucking better than we are right now. We were supposed to not allow fucking bullies to thrive and shit over people like we do here.
And yet, we fucking are not. This has become a place of fucking cliques and shit like just the "old place" and other shitholes in the internet. And when all the people at the top are complacent, what makes this places better than the other places again?
And I'm fucking sick of it. Our world is fucking sick. Thank fucking the force I have a kick ass support system, thank the fuck I have good people, real life people around me. Because if I was suicidal, this place isn't fucking healthy. This place isn't healthy not even for people that are fucking healthy. We need to get fucking better on how we treat each other. The world has gone to fucking shit. Yes, FUCKING YES, ban permanently the bigots, the white supremacists, the homophobes, the transphobes, the racists, the sexists, the fucking rapists. But we need to learn to have more fucking empathy among ourselves, and remember that this was supposed to be fucking safe haven. Not for the fucking cliques. But for every fucking one of us.
And if this is my last post around these parts, I am fucking damn proud of it. Banned or not, it just fucking might. Sick of this shit.
EtcetEraThreadMichelle Obama most admired woman in 2018, followed by Oprah, Hillary and Melanie Trump at #4
ReasonUser Banned (3 Days): Inappropriate commentary and antagonizing other members
I honestly don't get this place at times. If anything my comment is a compliment to Michelle that she looks as good as she does at her age.
Probably the correct way to say it was 'this is one beautiful woman' so don't step on toes but i couldn't give a shit really. Nothing about my comment was offensive in the slightest. Some people need their heads examined if that was an offensive thing to say. If they want to complain, complain to the mods.
EtcetEraThreadNew NYT Editorial Hire Under Fire for Past Tweets
ReasonUser banned (3 days): concern trolling, arguing in bad faith
See, your post is effective social commentary. I wish she would make Tweets like that...instead of mean statements like "I think white people should be marginalized and discriminated against." I can obviously see how they're satire, but it also could have been handled much more deftly. Stooping to that level doesn't help any sort of discourse because at their core they are fundamentally mean statements that accomplish nothing except promote toxicity. They're not humorous, they don't intelligently convey a point, so why bother posting them?
Why not use a few more words to add some nuance to your argument and promote awareness?
Like instead of:
"I WISH WHITE PEOPLE WOULD BE ARRESTED MORE OFTEN."
"It's a sorry state in our society when black men can't move into an apartment building without having the police called on them for suspected trepassing."
Which one accomplishes more? The latter. What does the inflammatory, mean statement do? Absolutely nothing except shock people...and little else.
I care greatly about the struggles that minorities and women face every day. I know they are profound and I know that as a white woman I am privileged by not having to deal with this shit on a daily basis. I just think we can do better than promoting this kind of inflammatory, mean statement as acceptable and encouraged no matter how it manifests. Luckily, our society as a whole is much more conscious and aware because of the hard work of the progressive movement...but we certainly have a long way to go and there are many areas that we have regressed. I just don't think shocking white people with inflammatory statements really does anything, to be honest. It certainly didn't do anything for me. Is the answer to vitriol...more vitriol?
Her bad jokes are also just...mean:
When did we as a society become so mean? This applies especially to all the people who have harassed her on a daily basis. It just makes me so sad.
I think it's still a little ridiculous that having an opinion is a bannable offence on a discussion board. It creates the kind of echo chamber that people accuse Era of being. If people are allowed to say they're upset then why aren't people allowed to say it doesn't bother them or that they aren't upset? That's utterly one sided.
If we cannot present opposing opinions, It turns a discussion into a rally, and a rally into a witch hunt. How long will it be before you burn me at the stake for this post, I wonder?
EtcetEraThreadLiam Neeson's real-life rape/revenge tale (See Staff Post)
ReasonUser Banned (Duration Pending): Excusing Racism as a "Mind Crime"; History of Severe Infractions
You're holding him accountable for a mind crime? Are you the thought police? He didn't actually do anything ... He recounted how messed up and wrong he was for thinking this way. But, he didn't actually do anything to anyone. So, you think we should just disparage anyone who has had a terrible thought or intent based on race or belief? That's probably most the planet, including PoC.
If we can't talk honestly about about how culture and events have affected us without having our lives blown apart, it'll be impossible to change anything.
GamingThreadgamers = people who play games. same thing
ReasonUser Banned (2 days): Inflammatory false comparison and history of dismissive behaviour.
Still a generalization. You focus on the worst and wanna change the meaning of the word to reflect that. Like if someone sees an African American teen gang and wants now the term "African American" to refer exclusively that, instead of, you know, the sea of other people that are of that ethnicity.
Sorry, but until you are able to prove a correlation between the category and the behavior, other than 'it' s a category so big that of course assholes will also be a part of it' it's a simple generalization that doesn't hold to scrutiny.
Also, you are free to give the meaning you want to words, just don't pretend the rest of the world must follow you in this behavior.
EtcetEraThreadCalls for boycott as racist Trevor Noah clip resurfaces
Red TextWhile I know in recent days there have been many stories regarding the alt-right making accusations, digging up dirt, etc., on famous people in order to get them fired, each story needs to be looked at separately. In Trevor Noah's case, the initial accusation was brought up by Aboriginal Australians who felt genuine offense at his "joke," and while it's true that members of the alt-right have been more than happy to jump on the train, that doesn't diminish the original concerns and offense by the Aboriginal Australians. Try not to conflate those two parties when looking at this situation.
We're not ignoring the thread, but there's still a discussion to be had (again, while I know the source of the original accusations, it has been latched onto by unsavory types, so they're sadly part of the conversation). People get things wrong, and honestly with a lot of the recent news lately, I can at least sorta "understand" why people are making that assumption. That doesn't mean it's correct.
At this point I'm hoping people learn from their knee-jerk mistake and course-correct before we jump to any major action. That said, I suppose I can add to this (and the OP) to clear it up:
EtcetEraThreadLiberal smugness will destroy the left (please read this OP)
ReasonUser Banned (Duration Pending); Consistent history of political trolling; accumulated infractions
So, here's an article worth discussing.
A warning, it's confrontational, pointy, and you may not agree. But I think it surfaces a valid point. That the left is essentially cannibalising itself, to the benefit of the right.
It gets plus points for directing you at the excellent works of Thomas Frank.
I particularly liked this paragraph
Goes to a particular bugbear of mine, that we view each other increasingly on purely economic terms , and not on social worth. My contention is that 40 years of neoliberal economics in the West have made us unable to discuss our worth in anything other than economic terms. And in doing so we lose our fundamental humanity.
This isn't another Brexit thread, God forbid, but I'm interested in the views set out here.
What say you?
this seems like a proxy issue and not a Bernie problem directly.
I don’t hate Nina but she is just a terrible tv spokesperson- not to mention she keeps hiring dumpster fire pals.
A few times i watched her get hyper animated at Ridiculous or insulting questions and fight thunderously with pundits - but over the years I realized that’s her default setting they should keep her off camera because she also gets combative and angry over really generic and milquetoast stuff. If she’s a genius organizer just have her do that.
if Bernie wins this is going to become even more important because his campaign is going to have to reach other candidates folks and even what pathetic remnants of turnable gop voters stillexist
GamingThreadStreets of Rage 4 Announced (Lizardcube, Guard Crush Games and DotEmu)
ReasonUser Banned (Duration Pending): Dismissing concerns regarding sexualisation of female characters. Previously warned and banned for similar behaviour.
Someone doesn't like Blaze's classic attire? Well, the dev shouldn't change her outfit because some gimp is "offended" about a fictional video game character's outfit so what's the other option for this "oh so upset" person? Oh yeah, go play something else.
No female video game character is ever allowed to be sexy. Talk about fucking facism.
GamingThreadI am disappointed by the lack of diversity depicted in Squadron 42
ReasonUser warned: repeated attempts at shutting down discussion
I don't but I know posting on reset era will not do much. Want to make difference then go out on street and try to make a difference by changing people mind set. Reset era members already support that we need more diversity. You have to change mind of people who are not here.
RDR 2 is all white cast, so you will boycott it? I support diversity in characters but I also understand why some devs go for all white cast coz unlike you guys I'm more of a practical who know and understand market reality. I can see what's happening around me .
EtcetEraThreadWhy do people lie about their height so much?
ReasonS2 User Banned (Duration Pending): Ableism; Prior Infraction for Ableist Language.
lmao at all the 6'3 people being like: "being tall is a curse". Y'all haven't experienced shit. I'm 6'9 and outside of a youth spent dominating at basketball it hasn't really paid off. I literally can't sit in 90% of cars without having my knees like besides the steering wheel looking like I'm driving a clown car. Can't sit straight in trains, airplanes, trams, or any other vehicle. I look ridiculous holding 90% of regular people sized shit, can't play stratocasters in public because the shits look like ukekeleles so I'm always using some huge hollowbody thing that looks like it's normal size for me. And I haven't even talked about buying shoes or clothes but I need to buy 90% of my shit at a specialist store at a significant markup so I'm not constantly running around in something that looks like an exposed belly button tanktop or like my basement has flooded.
You haven't experienced living in a world where everything was designed for the midgets that surround you. Fucking chairs with toothpick legs and seating heights below 50 cm, hospital scanners that literally can't fit your legs, being at or close to the weight limit for most things despite not being overweight, struggling with skateboarding because of a high center of gravity and tiny ass skateboards, every single cooking surface being at or below crotch height so it's easier to fuck my food than cook it. Ergonomic chairs that literally don't have the adjustment range required for you to be able to sit ergonomically, Having to bend down to pass through doors etc... Trust me when I say y'all don't know this pain.
At this point it just seems like neither side really wants any sort of conversation and just wants to keep arguments/fan the flames to feel vindicated for their side being correct on a matter.
And for video games, the most trivial thing in the grand scheme of things in the world to be running around screaming about.
Speaking for myself, being detached from all of this gaming/nerd culture and all the discussions on it’s importance such as gamez iz art guys!! Or how outraged you should be over the new She-Ra or Buffy’s reboot (that totally isn’t Whedon’s desperate attempt to get in people’s good graces again) has been a mental benefit. It’s not to say games can’t do better but Jesus has this conversation on culture been beaten to death. But I guess whatever makes the games press still feel relevant.