They’re banning folks just for saying that they’ll buy the game regardless, so yes.
They’re banning folks just for saying that they’ll buy the game regardless, so yes.
I’ve matched with transgender people by accident on various dating apps because they put their settings as females looking for males. I pretty much end it respectfully by me telling them that I’m flattered but straight and they all have taken it well. One person was surprised on how nice I was. It might help them (on Tinder at least) if some changed their settings around, but what do I know?
I'll still get the game.
"sexism against men makes no sense". What an absolute piece of shit, men can be victims of sexism as well. That's like saying you can't be racist to white people.
Never have I seen a more intolerant forum administration. It's less lenient than the Soviet Union in here. If you fart in the wrong direction, you're warned or (more likely) banned. Now tolerance in 2018.
This is a joke right? This is not specific to men. Men can suck, women can suck. How many girls are out there who have 0 empathy for guys they arent into who approach them? Guys are forced to deal with rejection in a way girls will never be able to imagine. This is a two sided issue
Wew lads. It's really late and there are a lot of ideas running around here. I'll chime in with my two cents, but this post is gonna be pretty sloppy so bear with me. Firstly, If your previous view of me was that, erase that from your head right now. I do not care, intrinsically, about minorities, or women, or people, or racism, or anything like that. It is not part of my rhetoric to convince people that these things are morally bad, it is not part of my characters to be inherently concerned with these things. This is why I end up at many of the same positions that progressives end up. Now that we have that out of the way, let's talk about homophobic and racial slurs. From a personal point of view, I don't think any word, inherently, should be off limits or out of bounds. There are times when using extremely vulgar language can achieve a great effect. This, so far, should be undeniable. Does racist language make a person racist? Does homophobic language make a person homophobic? Not necessarily, as much as it might upset some of you to consider this. This seems like a meaningless distinction, but I believe there's a great deal of difference between telling someone they are unintentionally empowering homophobic people vs being a homophobic person. Maybe you don't care, but to the person receiving the message, it matters, trust me.I have to be mindful of how I speak. Ultimately the way my message is interpreted by a viewer is my responsibility, or at least I believe I have some due diligence to ensure people aren't taking away the wrong message from my speech. This is why I generally avoid things like "faggot" or other types of heavy racial humor, and it's why I've been trying to edit out things like "retarded" and "autistic" from my vocabulary. I don't like the idea that people watching me could get an idea that I am homophobic in a way they might be, and I don't like the idea that racist people could listen to me and find companionship in what I'm saying, or some kind of affirmation in their horrible worldviews. I've written about this more extensively , if you care to read. Do I say offensive jokes privately that I would never say on stream? You better believe it. But why, what's the difference? A community that openly uses the word "faggot" feels unwelcoming because there are still a lot of gamers (and, larger, elements of society) that still act incredibly homophobic. If a friend of mine uses "faggot" in some insulting way in a private setting, I don't generally think twice about them saying it. If a stranger uses that word, I'm very uncomfortable around them because I don't know if they're actually a homophobic person. These distinctions may be meaningless to you, and to some extent you can argue that using racial/homophobic slurs in context should be off limits, and I'm fine with tackling those arguments. I generally don't like being called "racist" or "homophobic" because I believe my body of work (can u call a utube channel that tho) speaks for itself, but if you believe that my actions help to spread homophobic thought, maybe you don't care to make the distinction. I'm sleeping and I'll answer what I can when I wake up, and maybe even proofread/edit this if there are major fuckups. Stay safe my children.
Please don’t use sexualised insults like “fuck” and “ass”
It has been entertaining. Four more years please!
Because regular users don't care
If you're Kotaku, everything can be sexist. Even nature is sexist, it gave men penises and gave women vaginas so men can assert dominance women's vaginas with their penises. Everyone should have a penis, it's the only way to true equality.
I never said either of those. Both sides are not bad, I fight for equality for everyone and don't have to resort to labeling a group and excluding them to do so. I am a woman by the way.
Probably because non-binary or whatever your want to call it isn't real. And now for the part where I get banned for having an opinion that isn't popular but is also the opinion of the silent majority
Fuck this political correctness and all this shitty leftist agenda.
What if I told you the girls aren't real?
This place would be so much better if everyone would stop trying to out-woke each other and just talk games. Technical aspects, gameplay, story. Not, how offended can we get about anything. So very much better.
First, let me apologize for posting this thread in the wrong area at first, I posted in the hangouts by mistake. Now I shall copypaste what I said before. I haven't posted here for quite a while, but virtually every other gaming forum/community I have been on, has told me that Resetera has become ridiculous with it's moderation, and that you can get banned for wrongthink or expressing opinions that others do not agree with politically. I am a conservative, I am a Catholic, I am against abortion, I voted for Trump, I don't agree with a lot of things liberals and progressives stand for. I am not in favor of high taxes for anyone, I even oppose gay marriage. I have heard that if you express ANYTHING remotely opposing progressive views, that you will be banned, that there is absolutely no chance for anyone other than left-leaning folks to have discourse, and I have even been told that even progressives who don't agree with moderators will be absolutely unequivocally banned. I have also seen screen-caps showing people who want ANYONE with an opinion they don't like to be banned, and they also believe that staff isn't even harsh enough about it. Is this the case for Resetera? Do the rumors I hear ring true? We will find out, because I have pretty much just said everything I've heard you can get banned for, so if I get banned for this post, I suppose I will have my answer.
Xbox gamepass is better than both imo.
I think it's okay for Riot to fire someone who insults their customer base and makes them look unprofessional, yes. But your attempt to misrepresent what I said has been noted. I would like to have a productive and civil discourse on this, but I feel that the moderation policy on this forum stifles a lot of real discussion, as opinions going against the prevailing wind are silenced and shunned from the forums. This is then followed by people bleating 'the GGers win again!' at each other, like preaching to the choir, because they already threw away their chance to change someone's mind and instead just pushed them away for disagreeing. With that said, I'll take the risk and share my full thoughts on the issue. Should I catch a ban for it, it will only serve to prove my point. Making this forum a safe space for people who only agree with each other will never result in a change amongst the majority of people who do not frequent this forum. I feel that the event itself had good intentions (increasing female/NB representation in the industry) but bad execution. If Riot wanted to make an panel that was open only to women/NB, specifically for women/NB, there would be no problem at all. The initial uproar stems from the fact that men attending PAX, who paid the same ticket price and should have the same access as everyone else, were losing access to presentations that they would be interested in. If you want to show the content to everyone, but have a specific room where women/NB can raise their concerns and receive feedback on resumes, hear women/NB oriented talks, then fine. But the list of talks on the women/NB only timeslot was in fact fairly generalised. The negative work environment within Riot was uncovered, and Riot responded by withdrawing access from men who had nothing to do with the internal structure or environment of Riot. Understandably in my opinion, these men felt that this was unfair (but according to a lot of people on this forum, it's okay because they're men and men already dominate the industry, so this was just a way of somewhat tipping the scales in the other direction, even if the specific men who were losing out from this action had nothing to do with the imbalance anyway.) As for what DZK said. I think it's pretty mild and I have thick skin so even as a man who disagrees, I'm not offended by it. But I think the point still stands - you represent your company and you can't insult your customers like he did. That's all there is to it. I think trying to represent who disagrees as a 'misogynist' or a 'GGer' is disingenuous and the 'if you're not with us, you're against us' mentality on this forum is stronger than George W Bush.
Calling them monkeys is too low? If anything it isn't low enough. it doesn't take a genius to see why this was a disaster.
Oh please. You'd be first in line to rage, if Riot made a men-only event. Shit goes both ways.
Era is descending into the worst type of ultra-politically correct, don't dare offend anyone, ever culture. This isn't meaningful discourse and it's getting completely out of control. If people are unable to grasp the specific context of language and themes in a futureal dystopic video game and feel the need to overanalyse and disproportionately relate everything back to modern society and gender-identity issues (which are of course very real and scary), every one is going to have a bad time. It's a fucking video game, and a brilliant looking one at that. Move on.
I put my daughter to bed and started to cry. She asked what was wrong and I said the world was ending. I apologized to her for not being able to keep her safe and said we'd be lucky to be alive tomorrow morning. I hugged her tight and said "Goodnight. FOREVER." Her birthday is tomorrow and I can't believe Trump did this to her.
Well, you just verbally demeaned an entire class of people based on their racial identity. That's textbook racism. Doesn't matter if they're (or are) white, black, or any other color on the spectrum - when you bring race into it in an attempt to belittle: you're a racist.
I am black, I am fat, I am also Christian. I have heard racist jokes and racist comments - Some I am outraged about and some I just shake my head and move on. I have played many games that have had in racial stereotypes and sit through many movies that dont represent black people well. Being overweight - people have had to tolerate jokes and comments for most of their lives. Thank the Lord for women like Beyonce and Jlo that open the door for women to have curves and now for social media to empower much more to combat against body shaming - but guess what, it still happens. I like Bill Maher but guess what, he takes pleasure in dissing persons of faith (unless their his friends) as lost or mentally inferior but I still watch many of his shows because I like his comedy and views on other subjects. What I learned from this situation is that the meme / comment is a much more derogatory thing than I ever knew but at the same time please realize the context. This wasnt a core part or philiosophy in the game, the devs didnt come out and state a preference for a certain way of life etc etc. If you are going to say the sky is falling for every little thing then when major things happen are the masses going to believe you? This is the situation now with the backlash on political correctness and the popular outrage action against most things outside of the liberal viewpoint. You may have a point but claiming that people should be fired and apologies should be to a certain stard for every incident turns off many people. Again please take this as an observation from someone who is a bit older, living in a part of the world that is a fair bit more conservative and speak with persons who dont necessarily see these situations as cut and dry. I am all for not offending and to be as inclusive as possible but I realize that my upbringing did give me some biases I have to unlearn and that others may not care to hold those viewpoints - does that mean they should lose their livelihood or should have to always speak in a PC bubble so all can purchase their content with a clear conscience??? I dont know - life here on this planet isnt that easy.
You're an alt-right puppet, and you're too fucking stupid to realise it. Do you believe people are capable of self-improvement? Or are you the kind of simple-minded fool who condemns people forever, with no chance of redemption?
I really hope the next Fire Emblem won't have such stuff. Not because i care. I don't give a damn personally but seeing those talks about the game to talk about social issues, EXCEPT actually the...game, you know? That is exhausting for me. I still remember the "Soleil" case for FE Fates that take the news about everything except saying Conquest was one of the best campain in the whole FE saga.
I have watched the video and read the article, and while the man in the wheelchair was an ass, I didn't hear anything racist (unless I missed it). Somewhat on topic, I am glad that this kind of clothing is getting banned in more and more parts of Europe. This encapsulation has no place in a free and open society where men and women are equals. By wearing this, you are walking around with a permanent wall in front of you that anonymizes you and prevents normal human interaction with the rest of society, completely excluding yourself. It is also sexist, because men don't have to wear it, meaning it goes against the principle of gender equality.
See, your post is effective social commentary. I wish she would make Tweets like that...instead of mean statements like "I think white people should be marginalized and discriminated against." I can obviously see how they're satire, but it also could have been handled much more deftly. Stooping to that level doesn't help any sort of discourse because at their core they are fundamentally mean statements that accomplish nothing except promote toxicity. They're not humorous, they don't intelligently convey a point, so why bother posting them? Why not use a few more words to add some nuance to your argument and promote awareness? Like instead of: "I WISH WHITE PEOPLE WOULD BE ARRESTED MORE OFTEN." How about: "It's a sorry state in our society when black men can't move into an apartment building without having the police called on them for suspected trepassing." Which one accomplishes more? The latter. What does the inflammatory, mean statement do? Absolutely nothing except shock people...and little else. I care greatly about the struggles that minorities and women face every day. I know they are profound and I know that as a white woman I am privileged by not having to deal with this shit on a daily basis. I just think we can do better than promoting this kind of inflammatory, mean statement as acceptable and encouraged no matter how it manifests. Luckily, our society as a whole is much more conscious and aware because of the hard work of the progressive movement...but we certainly have a long way to go and there are many areas that we have regressed. I just don't think shocking white people with inflammatory statements really does anything, to be honest. It certainly didn't do anything for me. Is the answer to vitriol...more vitriol? Her bad jokes are also just...mean: When did we as a society become so mean? This applies especially to all the people who have harassed her on a daily basis. It just makes me so sad.
Question. I apologize if I come off as offensive for this, but this is a genuine question. What are the rules for claiming you're "non binary"? Like, if I tell them I identify as a helicopter, would they just let me in? Or what? Not letting in men, is still technically discriminating, is it not? I understand that it's not/shouldn't be a big deal for us (men), and it isn't but you're still leaving out a group of people.
You do realize what site we are posting on right? Every thread is just another event in the Woke Olympics
Still a generalization. You focus on the worst and wanna change the meaning of the word to reflect that. Like if someone sees an African American teen gang and wants now the term "African American" to refer exclusively that, instead of, you know, the sea of other people that are of that ethnicity. Sorry, but until you are able to prove a correlation between the category and the behavior, other than 'it' s a category so big that of course assholes will also be a part of it' it's a simple generalization that doesn't hold to scrutiny. Also, you are free to give the meaning you want to words, just don't pretend the rest of the world must follow you in this behavior.
Nintendo's goal is to make good games, not political statements.
Cant wait to play this cunting game.
I think I'm going to vomit. Are you a black supremacist?
‘Yikes’ Am I doing this right, era?
Please tell me about racist history of Poland and who was on short end of receiving stick.
Funny you mention shutting down the discussion because every day there are multiple banning of posters who express contrary opinions to these, in fact it's likely not long before the mods come and have a nice little ideological purge of this thread. The fact is that shutting down the discussion is the modus operandi of ResetEra, I have never seen a forum so hostile to debate, ever. If you don't recognise the hypocrisy in claiming that the mere presence of a certain word is psychologically harmful whereas the depiction of mass murder is not then you are immensely short sighted.
Just wish she looked more sexy. Like wearing a tank top and looked more feminine instead of that awful shirt. And that wristband she's wearing looks fugly. Why not a nice bracelet?
all of yall actin like you still wont be playing this game day one lmaooo
I would not ask a gaming board about normal social interactions. Half of ya'll likely find talking to the GameStop clerk and turning down their rewards card sales pitch a traumatic experience.
Well, since I shared Gamergate's ideas for quite some time, I think I can share my point of view. First thing, I'm from France. I think the Gamergate hasn't really taken roots there despite some attempts, and gaming medias were generally silent about that controversy. The french gaming medias also have a really different mentality than english-speaking ones and that can explain why the Gamergate controversy wasn't really followed in France. Secondly, I am against the most vocal feminist and anti-racist groups. This point of view started before the Gamergate. To clarify my point of view I think the causes they fight for are causes that are worthy to fight for, I understand that the balance is broken and there are things that have to be done, but the vocal groups fighting for them are way too radical and their methods tend to accentuate the differences between races/genders/ect... Since my childhood playing video games takes a very good part of my life... and I don't mean it in a good way. It's a real problem in my case, but even today I don't even plan to "heal" that behaviour because I accepted this lifestyle. So yeah, for me video games are really important. In the 2000's the "Violent video games controversy" came in and some popular TV channels took position against video games. One of them, which is one of the most popular TV channels, was especially virulent against it. This situation really affected me at that time. In 2012, there was the DoritosGate. In France it was well covered in gaming medias, and even a non-gaming media tried to explain it with a debate with some personalities of different gaming sites and press. It showed that most of the english-speaking gaming medias were very easily corruptible, an attitude which was comparable with some of the most ill reputed french gaming medias. I must admit, I loved reading these articles. One year after that, Mar_Lard, a french feminist, published an article denouncing the sexism existing in the gaming community and particularly in the gaming medias. Her article got quite the coverage in the french gaming medias and well... not a good one. The first time I head of the Gamergate it was in late 2014 (I think it was in October but I'm not really sure) when I was reading one of those rare french coverage of the Gamergate. Intrigued by this controversy I wanted to know more about it and well... the Gamergate point of view was way more credible for me: I thought that the english-speaking gaming media were highly corruptible, I viewed Anita Sarkeesian as a female counterpart of Jack Thompson (I only discovered her at this time) and Zoe Quinn was really a nobody for me since her game was never covered in french gaming medias. The "Gamers are dead" articles were the slice of the cake: for me a media is a way to rally and lead a community and these medias who published these articles just wanted to throw away the community they helped to create. So, from what I read at that time there was mainly two things: - An unknown developper who slept with an english-speaking game journalist to gain coverage for her game. Since the DoritosGate proved that english-speaking gaming medias were highly corruptible, this was clearly believable. - Gaming medias that were responsible for their community's mentality decided that this community is not worthy of their time and simply ditched the "monster" they created. It was clear for me: the Gamergate was right and the events leading to that mess was because the english-speaking gaming medias were corrupt to the core. The feminist groups and the mainstream medias siding with the gaming medias were just a proof of that corruption. I have to point something: this point of view is only targeted against english-speaking gaming medias, not the french ones. There are french gaming medias that are corrupt, but these medias are also targeted by feminists. From this point, I spent most of my time not playing video games but reading what was in KotakuInAction and confronting my point of view. My change of attitude worried my best friend and it took her some months to tell me she was concerned by my behaviour because "the Gamergate was in my head all the time". It was a shock for me and from that day I took distance with the Gamergate and concluded some time later that there was only one victim in all that mess: Zoe Quinn. PS: Sorry if my english is not really good, I can read it but I have some difficulties to write and speak it.
I would like to say some things now, but then I get banned...
We're not ignoring the thread, but there's still a discussion to be had (again, while I know the source of the original accusations, it has been latched onto by unsavory types, so they're sadly part of the conversation). People get things wrong, and honestly with a lot of the recent news lately, I can at least sorta "understand" why people are making that assumption. That doesn't mean it's correct. At this point I'm hoping people learn from their knee-jerk mistake and course-correct before we jump to any major action. That said, I suppose I can add to this (and the OP) to clear it up:
Depending on the specifics, I have and will continue to be highly annoyed when I see "white people" this or that without the qualifier SOME white people or MOST white people or whatever. If you mean some white people as opposed to the racist generalization of all white people, then say that. If you think I'm fragile for that, cool. I don't care what any racist of any color thinks.