I can't stand the ad. I also disliked it on YouTube.
Before mocking me please at least hear me out... I grew up with sisters and a single mother who worked hard for everything we got. So I have great respect for women. I know this ad wasn't directed at me but it still annoys me anyways.
The reason is the way it seems to portray toxic masculinity as an almost exclusively white male problem. Don't get me wrong there's at least one adult black man in the video being toxic but it just feels like he was thrown in after someone brought the issue up.
Imagine this video if the skin color on all the white and black men was reversed. Imagine how a black man would feel watching such an ad with the scenes at 0:37-0:38, 1:48, 0:56-1:00 and 1:01-1:05.
If the ad had shown that this is a problem with all races by showing all (or most) of them being toxic then I would have been completely fine with it. As it stands now I won't be buying any more Gillette products since every time I look at them I'll just be reminded of this commercial. Not really a loss since I recently got a Braun shaver anyways and would have been cutting back on razors.
I also understand that people will just assume I'm a far right asshole when the reality is I'm a Canadian liberal that despises Trump. I've probably made some enemies with my first post but I wanted people to know that not everyone offended is a right wing troll.
Calling a spade a spade. If they were young boys of the same age that were local scallies/neds/chavs in the UK, people would be saying they got what they deserved. Everyone complaining that the guy will get a pass for being a white male but it feels like these are being given a pass for being female
Admittedly, I’d not seen the point above before about how the guy started it. That changes things slightly. Either way - I’m not excusing the guys behaviour at all. Just saying - if they were my kids I’d be ashamed of the way they’re behaving
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ReasonUser Banned (Duration Pending): Inflammatory generalizations, antagonizing other members, and accumulated infractions
Fucking report me, and get it over with. Put me out of my fucking misery.
I try to come back here to give it a chance. But I’m tired of this fucking website, and it’s slow attempt to commercialize further, and further. A week ago someone here linked a post of mine to use it to sell a game to a potential buyer. Like it was a glowing review. It wasn’t.. It was straight up astroturfing, and I have this sneaking suspicion that you’re doing it as well. Just another fucking NeoGaf filled with wannabe corporate assholes.
EtcetEraThreadGillette’s inspiring new ad addressing toxic masculinity asks: “Is this the best a man can get?”
ReasonUser Banned (Duration Pending): Trolling in a sensitive subject thread, account in junior phase
On the surface yes, peel back a layer and it’s a multinational guilty of other morally questionable labour practices trying to lecture their customer base on being a man which is offensive enough. Taken in context and relation to what’s happening as a whole, and it’s part of a concerted effort to demonise masculinity which I don’t agree with
ReasonUser Banned (Permanent): Transphobic alt account
Nothing wrong with that. At the end of the day all you can be reasonably expected to do is treat other people with respect in regards to their preferred name and pronouns, if at the end of the day you can't see a trans person as anything other than their birth sex then that's perfectly fine, just don't be a raging asshole about it.
Probably less than 1% of the population actually accepts trans people (talking about acceptance here not tolerance). Even as someone who meets the diagnostic criteria for GID myself, I still don't view transgender identities as valid barring a few exceptions.
EtcetEraThreadNYT: Saudi Teenager Who Fled Family Embraces All Things Canadian. (O.K., Maybe Not Winter.)
ReasonUser Banned (Duration Pending): Inflammatory Commentary; Dismissing Concerns Surrounding Domestic Abuse; History of Severe Infractions
Gotta love the assumptions here. I've never read a comic, and hate war films. You have absolutely no idea what my life experiences are and what colors my perspective and context. Not sure how abandoning your family and running away to another country is "standing up to everyday injustice", but fine. Again, I wish this girl well, but I should be able to see her as something other than a "hero" without being seen as having malicious intent, as if viewing her as a hero is the only possible perspective one can have.There more than one way to assess certain actions, and more than one perspective can be reasonable. I mean, she abandoned her family and rejected all of Islam, so let's not pretend it's only the societal/cultural oppressive society in SA that she had a problem with. Not sure what's wrong with pointing that out.
"Why do you give a fuck, this is really what you took away from reading all of this?"
Why is everyone else in this thread allowed to give a fuck by commenting, and I'm not? Why are you so offended by the fact that I have a slightly different take? Not even sure what your comment means.
I wish her well, but don't view her as anything close to a hero. I doubt this is some kind of radical opinion.
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ReasonUser Warned: Thread Derailment
I don't listen to Chris Brown but also, nothing about that youtube still makes me want to click anywhere near it. The unshaven neck, the moustache(?), that shirt. Everything appears to be going poorly here. Moving right along.
EtcetEraThreadChina sentences Canadian man to death for drug smuggling
ReasonUser banned (1 week): inflammatory accusations and generalizations, false equivalences, whataboutism + history of similar infractions
It's like that in so many countries around the world and a lot of them have way more "Human right violations" that are more extreme than anything China is doing but too many people here have a hard-on for shitting on China because they've become such a mainstay on the world stage as of late. They're flexing their wealth everywhere and people are flat out hating on them. It's a beautiful place to stay/live and has it's bad spots just like anywhere else in the world but everyone seems to want to focus on the smaller issues there ( which are serious by all means ) all while ignoring bigger issues in other countries because they're a World Power that is on the verge of surpassing the US on pretty much every level other than military might. The way the hive-mind is here you'd swear China is the second coming of Nazi Germany which is honestly hilarious given all the good things the country has done worldwide as a whole. It's all filled with a little jealousy, envy as well as low-key racism but they won't openly admit it here.
EtcetEraThreadKevin Hart thinks being offended by anti-gay jokes, and being gay is a choice.
ReasonUser Banned (1 Week): Excusing Homophobia
Just stop, Kevin is being insensitive to the topic at hand but lets not compare being insensitive to the LGBTQ community with racism towards black folks. Two ignorant situations with totally different stories behind them.
EtcetEraThreadBay Area Housing - Two cats rent San Jose studio for $1500/mo
ReasonUser Banned (Duration Pending): Xenophobic rhetoric; history of inflammatory generalizations surrounding race and nationality
Everything about that story is gross. I used to live in San Jose(which I loved) but got too expensive and had to move east to shitty Fremont, land of rich Indians and Asians driving Teslas and Mercedes Benz to their $2 million dollar homes in the ghetto.
EtcetEraThreadHow is complaining about rap in videogames still a thing in 2019?
Red TextIt is possible to raise the observation of how Black culture has been received in gaming over the years without suggesting that everyone who dislikes rap music is racist. Likewise, please understand that how rap music and Black culture has been treated in gaming can be alienating for some members of the community. In short, let's choose our words carefully, please.
EtcetEraThreadGillette’s inspiring new ad addressing toxic masculinity asks: “Is this the best a man can get?”
ReasonUser Banned (Duration Pending): Inflammatory false equivalencies surrounding hate and misogyny over a series of posts
These past two years I've seen multiple campaigns about how awful us men are and how we need to improve. Can you point me in the direction of a nation wide campaign targeting women?
It's quite simple really. Stop target a specific sex with these campaigns and let us move forward together. I feel like my sex is under constant attack.Toxic masculinity you say. I have been objectified by women. It's not uncommon for young girls do the exact same thing to other young girls. I have been "catcalled".
What is it you are exactly trying to say?
Men and women alike are capable of bad behavior.
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ReasonUser Banned (1 Week): Dismissing homophobia over a series of posts; concern trolling
Purity test much?
(Of course those comments are problematic, as I said in my initial post, as they were informed by her religious baggage)
Current positions matter more than previous ones (or does that only apply to candidate of choice??), But prior beliefs still should be considered, especially when arrived at by presently held faulty framework ( religion).
EtcetEraThreadWas the whole Disney-Star wars deal worth it?
ReasonUser Banned (Duration Pending): Misogyny; account still in junior phase
Here's my theory on what has happened to Star Wars without being too political. By the way, Solo is my fav Disney Star Wars. It was brilliant.
When Kathleen Kennedy took over the brand there was a decision made that it needed to shift its appeal over to women and girls. My guess is that the Marvel Avengers brand was seen as appealing mostly to men and boys and Disney needed something besides Frozen etc that was going to hit that female market. The male fans who have always been with Star Wars will buy whatever has Star Wars branding on it but the women and girls needed to be persuaded to buy also.
A complete shift in focus to women happened to Star Wars, from female leads in the movies to a Forces of Destiny cartoon that focused only on female characters. After the Force Awakens had wide appeal with men and women they saw the plan as working and went full throttle with widening the appeal to women and girls since the male demographic was buying everything as usual.
What slowly happened was that the core fanbase was slowly getting left out in the cold with this new shift in focus. Finally with the Last Jedi which was a sort of Twilight in Space with some other things thrown in and a completely mishandled Luke Skywalker to appeal to the base, it all came crashing down. The Women and Girls never bought the toys they were supposed too and the core base (men?) didn't want them either. Now they are in deep trouble. The Women and Girls have left or moved on (though a few remain to ship Rey and Kylo) and the core fanbase is beyond pissed because the products of the movies and merchandise were not created to appeal to them at all. At this point Disney has to shift to a "stories for everyone" instead of "stories for girls" and hope that the core fans come back.
EtcetEraThreadMichelle Obama most admired woman in 2018, followed by Oprah, Hillary and Melanie Trump at #4
ReasonUser Banned (3 Days): Inappropriate commentary and antagonizing other members
I honestly don't get this place at times. If anything my comment is a compliment to Michelle that she looks as good as she does at her age.
Probably the correct way to say it was 'this is one beautiful woman' so don't step on toes but i couldn't give a shit really. Nothing about my comment was offensive in the slightest. Some people need their heads examined if that was an offensive thing to say. If they want to complain, complain to the mods.
EtcetEraThreadDwayne 'The Rock' Johnson hits out at 'snowflake generation' for 'looking for a reason to be offended (Update: The Rock Says Interview Never Happened)
ReasonUser warned: Aggressive behaviour
You shoulda followed my advice but nah you went back to hiding out in OTs and only posting in these topics when you have something shitty to say about other people without taking the time to actually consider what they're actually trying to communicate.
I'll say it again: lurk moar
EtcetEraThreadApple succumbs to the smartphone malaise
ReasonUser Warned: Drive-by Post
Good. Fuck Apple.
EDIT: Sorry mods. I like Apple's products, but detest its practices such as exploitation of slave labor and tax evasion. I guess my outburst was because I have absolutely zero sympathy for its financial "malaise" lol.
EtcetEraThreadTeenagers don blackface and hand out gifts to children in parade in Spain
ReasonUser Banned (Duration Pending): Dismissing Blackface, History of Severe Infractions
It seems cultural and they are passing out candy? Besides painting their faces, are they spreading bigotry or hurting the image of black people with negative connotations?
I'm uncomfortable with this, but unless there is mal-intent I will just say this is cultural differences and give it a "Its fine. This is fine. THIS. Is fine".