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EtcetEraThread "I read the spoilers for Rise of Skywalker and i'll let you know in every single TROS thread by vaguely talking about spoilers"
Reason User Warned: Thread whining
Did this really need to be a thread?
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EtcetEraThread Since it's November, annual reminder: Thanksgiving is a problematic holiday, "celebrates a myth of colonialism and white proprietorship of the U.S."
Reason User Warned: Trolling
We get it, you’re woke
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EtcetEraThread ResetEra Moderation Staff is Fucking Up Beyond Belief on LGBT+ Issues
Reason User banned (1 day): off-topic trolling
I want to learn about what trans people deal with but I won't post in a thread because I see other with the same questions being banned for transphobia. We can't learn if we ask a question and you deem it phobic and block discussion by banning us. You have to understand the majority are unfamiliar with this topic, as "gay" was years ago. If people in good faith are asking questions shutting them down is hurting you, not helping.
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EtcetEraThread Vegan sues Burger King for cooking Impossible Whopper on meat grill (and something about rats)
Reason User banned (duration pending): inflammatory comparison and accusation against other members, recently banned for identical behaviour, and a long history of infractions for hostility and inflammatory accusations.
Lol “well if you tell us not to be shitty then we’ll just go back to when things were worse and it’ll be all your fault” straight out of the alt right playbook. I can’t.
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EtcetEraThread We need to talk about responding to Trans related issues
Reason User banned (duration pending): Abusing a personal relationship with a moderator to misuse private staff discussions.
The first part is a good first step as it is actually addressing an issue that has been a long running issue on this site and online in general. Outrage culture, left eating itself, woke culture, and bad faith arguing are all used incorrectly by people and used primarily as a way to dismiss people as not being genuine so that they don't have to actually entertain that they could be wrong. It's incredibly similar to the arguments that people have used in the past that accuse people of virtue signalling which has been actioned quite a bit, which is why it was frustrating to see things regress on this front. The issue that exists within the pronoun section is the implications that doing something like that carries if it's not explicitly said. People who willfully misgender trans people are telling us that they don't really see trans people as the gender that we are, that we aren't valid. When someone does this explicitly for all trans people, that is abundantly clear. However, there are times where someone will see a trans person doing something criminal and they'll start to fall back into using the wrong pronouns. This shows that they don't see us as valid as much as they see our identities as a courtesy or a polite gesture that can be taken back when needed. We have been told in the past that people who do not see trans women as women, trans men as men, or trans people in general as valid will be perma'd instantly when they reveal this, and I think that willful misgendering should fall into that category as well. And you're right that trans people are individuals, but you sort of start to counteract that with your very next part. Staff members and regular members are not treated the same way, and it's always been apparent to everyone who posts on this forum to the point that it's a running joke in a lot of circles here. I'm not talking about who makes decisions on reports, but the way that hostility is treated as well as the way that bigotry is actioned. If someone insults another member, they'll get a warning or at most a day ban if they don't have a history. But, if someone comes after the moderation or express frustration they'll more than likely get 5 days to a week at minimum. I don't think that you all should be facing harassment of any kind, but this is one of the easily verifiable things on the site that people have seen. The way that bigotry is handled by people on Staff is also a bit strange. There was that one transphobic post by a moderator that when posted by anyone else would have been a month ban, but in this case, they were just talked to and allowed to stay on the team. When evidence was presented of how they had said these things throughout their time on GAF before this, it was dismissed and considered resolved. There are also chats that have been shown to people about a moderator on the staff talking in the discord about how Asexuals should not be a part of the LGBT+ community and instead of any challenging or talking through, was essentially told that people could see where they were coming from, to not feel bad, and then dropped. These things are always going to be treated differently because these people that are on the team are more easily reached, more easily talked to than the people on the forum, but these double standards that people see on top of the regressions that have happened in some topics are going to frustrate people. Of course you guys care about the site, but you often seem to be under the impression that you're the only ones who do and the rest of us are just trying to stick it to you instead of doing what we can from our own end. The users of this site are people too, and you can't expect us to take just as much abuse as you when we have no ways of pushing back against it. It's not that you all aren't open to listening or feedback, so much as the opinions on people of staff are typically held higher than the rest. Which is somewhat understandable as you're able to have longer and more in-depth conversations as you're in a discord together, but is part of the issue I have with this "Trans people are individuals" line. I get what your point is. There are threads where people are upset about an issue going on and telling someone that they don't care about trans issues without knowing the first thing about the person they're talking to. That isn't good, and that should be taken care of, but when we're able to recognize that trans people are going to differ on some of these minute topics it can't all come down to the weight of whichever trans mod is online at that particular moment to make the call every time. Because I'm dating someone who was on the mod team for almost 2 years and had a lot of conversations with you all, I know that it's rare for more than one trans mod to be around and tackling reports. And I think you all need to be more open to the idea that people aren't reporting what they see as bigotry for no reason.
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EtcetEraThread Since it's November, annual reminder: Thanksgiving is a problematic holiday, "celebrates a myth of colonialism and white proprietorship of the U.S."
Reason User Banned (5 Days): Dismissive trolling
Haha I promise to think of your comment at least once when I'm helping myself to a second serving of turkey. Really, though, get over yourself.
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EtcetEraThread It's Trans Awareness Week! (Nov 13th -19th)
Reason User banned (duration pending review): Excessive hostility over multiple posts, inflammatory false equivalence, derailing a sensitive topic.
If Ket did something that breached privacy, fine, but show your work. I'm afraid I don't take the word of volunteers chirping "use that report button!" very seriously. Quite honestly, this is some Gaf-level rug sweeping. It's just painted pretty because some mods are trans.
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EtcetEraThread When exactly did the Irish, Italians and Ashkenazi Jews became accepted as "White" in America?
Reason User Banned (Duration Pending): Racism, espousing phrenology
Also structure of the skull and facial features. Technically, Middle Eastern and North African are white as well although not European and their different religion as well as frequently tanned skin makes them alien to Europeans.
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EtcetEraThread It's a weird feeling having literally NO MONEY
Reason User Warned: Inflammatory comparison.
Maybe if you're going to quote me, quote correctly. I said "GUESS this is how poor people feel consistently" I never said "MUST". You can't even read my post properly, for someone being so hostile Also, for those that can't comprehend the sentence: Notice how I said 'CONSISTENTLY", this suggests that I'm imaging a scenario in which I forget my wallet all the time, which means I'm hungry ALL THE TIME. Is that not what poor people experience?
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EtcetEraThread Zaha Hadid Architects completes Leeza SOHO skyscraper in Beijing with world's tallest atrium
Reason User Banned (Duration Pending): Inflammatory Accusation and Trolling Over Multiple Posts; Numerous Prior Bans for Inflammatory Behavior
The guy with a communist Air Force pilot avatar is totally not CCP or a defender of communism. I’m so sorry for accusing you of something you aren’t. Much love.
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EtcetEraThread It's Trans Awareness Week! (Nov 13th -19th)
Red Text In addition to the staff message posted by Hecht yesterday, I wanted to apologize again for the hurt that recent events have caused our trans community. I know that explanations and excuses always matter less than actions, so I'd like to start by making it clear that we have renewed determination to promote diversity on the staff and restore confidence in the team.
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EtcetEraThread NBC News: Reporter says Charles Barkley told her: 'I don't hit women, but if I did, I'd hit you' Barkley states: "It was an attempted joke"
Reason User Warned: Thread whining
Not is news or needs a thread. Yeah, joking about violence against women isn't a great look but the context of the comment seems innocuous so it baffles me how this could be interpreted as a genuine statement of hostility. Still, not something you should be saying.OMG what a chump amirite!! Especially when you consider all of McCammond's Pulitzers.
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EtcetEraThread ResetEra Moderation Staff is Fucking Up Beyond Belief on LGBT+ Issues
Reason User banned (duration pending): Trolling in a sensitive thread. History of similar behavior.
Make Jarate Mod #2020 I promise to ban all lakers fans and all patriots fans on this forum!
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EtcetEraThread Woman gets body slammed outside of Popeyes by employee after allegedly using racial slur
Reason User banned (duration pending): dismissive commentary and concern trolling surrounding race, history of similar behavior
It's racism to not condone extreme physical violence in retaliation to words? That's cute.
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EtcetEraThread You're now a billionaire, now what?
Reason User Banned (2 Weeks): Trolling and Antagonizing Other Users Over Multiple Posts; Prior Infraction for SImilar Behavior
Gift like 10 million dollars to the most prominent socialists on ERA and see how they react to their immoral wealth Not enough money to give most away and live comfortably, and not enough money to ignore... just the right amount for never ending cognitive dissidence.
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EtcetEraThread Best selling author Sarah Dessen sends twitter followers after a college student for not liking her books
Reason User Banned (1 day): Hostility over a series of post
lol you are so full of shit it's unreal. Invent a racist? Dude I said that Fox News shit before you even mentioned anything to me. You're the one who has the reading comprehension of a high school sophomore and immediately *assumed* you knew what I was talking about without really connecting the dots. Like, are you unable to see how this whole dialogue can EASILY be turned into a Fox News talking point? Is that beyond your grasp? Apologize for trying to assume that I didn't read the thread and then not understanding what I was saying. (Really, if you were a decent person you'd apologize for just being an antagonist in the thread, too, rather than actually trying to have a reasoned, level-headed conversation with your fellow forum-members. But that doesn't allow you to look like the hero in your own little Euripides play that you've got playing out in your head here, so I'm not holding my breath.)
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EtcetEraThread When exactly did the Irish, Italians and Ashkenazi Jews became accepted as "White" in America?
Reason User banned (1 month): Inflammatory Thread Derailment and Hostility Over Multiple Posts, Accumulated Infractions
"It's a culture thing" so it has nothing to do with actually being white. You're just a bigoted individual trying to differentiate yourself due to ideological, political, and nationalistic reasons. You assume things due to your own innate hatred and won't bend that to accommodate reality. Your opinion is so ignorant that it offends me. Doubly so when the concept of sharing anything with a Brit so disgusts you that you can't possibly bring yourself to admit reality. I put your beliefs in the same category as flat earthers, aka "fucking dumb". Good luck living in your own weird ignorant bubble.
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EtcetEraThread EW: Julia Roberts was suggested to play Harriet Tubman by studio exec, says Harriet screenwriter
Reason User banned: ( 2 weeks) Arguing in bad faith and being dismissive to systematic racism.
I have a question for ya'll... How do you feel about stuff like this when its reversed? Minorities playing white characters in a historical setting? For example, the new Lady and the Tramp on Disney+ features Lady's owners as an interracial couple (Jim Dear is white and Darling Dear is black). The movie takes place in the early 1900s and presumably in New Orleans or at the very least the South. Isn't this a quite disingenuous to history and an how people were treated at the time and place? Wasn't interracial marriage illegal in the United States until at least the 1960s? I have no problem with fixing the racist siamese cats, but making racial changes for the sake of modern culture without regard for historical accuracy just seems wrong. It feels like they are viewing history through rose tinted glasses. It also goes beyond Lady's owners too; the pet store owner is played by Parvesh Cheena (Indian), the doctor is played by Ken Jeong (Korean), and the dog catcher is played by Ardrian Martinez (Hispanic). I'm no expert on the racial makeup of 1900s southern United States, but this seems highly implausible.
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EtcetEraThread Is my kid's teacher racially insensitive, or are her 1st grade classmates just little racist jerks?
Reason User banned (2 weeks): Inflammatory generalization. History of making similar commentary.
Is this in China? They can be pretty prejudiced against darker skin
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EtcetEraThread Pirates of the European: Illegal Downloads of "The Mandalorian" rival GoT
Reason User Banned (3 days): Advocating piracy
I torrent 90% of what I watch and I'm proud
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EtcetEraThread Joker sequel is in development. Todd Philips to direct. [UPDATE: Apparently not. See threadmarks.]
Reason User Banned (1 Week): Inflammatory commentary
Maybe next time around the media and twitter/era pearl clutching will cause the shooting they desperately awaited.
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EtcetEraThread UK General Election 12th December 2019 |OT1| Hindsight is 20/19
Reason User Banned (2 Weeks): Xenophobic Rhetoric Over Multiple Posts
not the debate, I’ve heard Jeremy loud and clear over the last few months. NHS is going no where, don’t worry - well unless the population keeps sky rocketing and we end up in a quantity over quality
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EtcetEraThread ResetEra Moderation Staff is Fucking Up Beyond Belief on LGBT+ Issues
Red Text For the good of the community, we are commuting Ketkat's ban to time served. After speaking at length with Ketkat, we recognize that the breach of privacy was the crux of the problem and that it was a mistake to reference the personal relationship in the initial banner.
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EtcetEraThread ResetEra Moderation Staff is Fucking Up Beyond Belief on LGBT+ Issues
Reason User Banned (3 days): Hostility towards another member
You can't be surprised by that. And based on the prior quotes from the old thread, they're a hypocrite and want this swept under the rug as quickly as possible.
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EtcetEraThread It's Trans Awareness Week! (Nov 13th -19th)
Red Text For the good of the community, we are commuting Ketkat's ban to time served. After speaking at length with Ketkat, we recognize that the breach of privacy was the crux of the problem and that it was a mistake to reference the personal relationship in the initial banner.
(Posted in the wrong thread before, my bad).
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EtcetEraThread South Park mocks trans athlete with a transphobic episode
Reason User Warned: Cisplaining
I might be wrong here but I did not see this episode as transphobe. Hear me out, I believe that it sheds a critic light on something on people exploiting gray areas. The current understanding and laws apply to the old binary form of sexual identification and shoehorns them into this ancient paradigm that we have. We have the boys, excluding the girls at something cause they feel they are being intruded and outclassed. I feel it conveys two sides of a coin. How inclusion can be beneficial and the struggles we have today to come to it, but the discussions we need to have that are unconformable. Granted, I don't believe that the trans athlete messaged was conveyed in the best way, still I the message I got is not against trans athletes but the way we try to shoehorn progress into today's paradigm which can result in an imbalance. Eventually I think these things need to be discussed to reach a true level of fairness and acceptance of everyone. I believe it's a mistake not to celebrate the wonderful diversity trans people bring to human society, and try to mold them into a binary paradigm when in reality I don't think much of the world fits to it. We as a society as we accept and include more, need to treat the shades of gray people have.
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EtcetEraThread MSNBC Is the Most Influential Network Among Liberals—And It’s Ignoring Bernie Sanders
Reason User Warned: Inflammatory drive-by
This thread once again reminds me that Era is such a neolib community, it's sad to see.
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EtcetEraThread Taylor Swift can't perform her own songs at the AMAs because she doesn't own them
Reason User Banned (1 week): trolling while in junior phase
No empathy for a White with damn near half a bill in the bank. Fuck outta here with that “buT TheY be aRtiStS, itS DIFFERENT” bullshit, they’ll be gutted by the poor when we rise up as well as any other elite
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EtcetEraThread We need to talk about responding to Trans related issues
Reason User Banned (Duration Pending): Conspiracy theories, ignoring staff messages, numerous previous infractions
When you know you've said something truly horrible, so horrible that if anyone discovered it you'd be ruined, you get super paranoid that people will find out about it. So when a poster references that event, even if they name no names and mention zero specifics and there's no way it could possibly be related to you, you panic because you know know, and at some point in the future they attach a name to the horrible things you said. so they ban you
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EtcetEraThread Parents: Sleepovers for 6-7 yr olds at friend’s house - yea or nay?
Reason User warned: hostility
OP I'm not saying this to be mean, but you sound kind of like a deuche. Not only because of your paranoia but because of your general attitude in this thread. I've gotten the barest whiff of your personality and I already resent you.
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EtcetEraThread ResetEra Moderation Staff is Fucking Up Beyond Belief on LGBT+ Issues
Reason User banned (1 month) - trolling in a sensitive thread, long history of trolling
What exactly is going on here ? Are people committing suicide because of a thread ? There needs to be legal action being taken
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EtcetEraThread ResetEra Moderation Staff is Fucking Up Beyond Belief on LGBT+ Issues
Reason User banned (duration pending): doubling down on dismissing transphobia after being banned for the same thing, disruptive behaviour in a sensitive thread
exactly how was I transphobic? And yes ima stay out these threads tho enjoy
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EtcetEraThread Hillary Clinton Says We Must Be ‘Sensitive’ to Transphobia
Reason User Banned (1 Week): Dismissive and antagonistic behaviour in a sensitive discussion.
I am blown away at the combative stances in this thread. She's literally trying to capture her generation in a quote. Her generation and she's trying to ease that idea. NOTHING is immediate. Y'all have the most minimal context. I get why people are leaving.
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EtcetEraThread Ricky Gervais returning to host The Golden Globes
Reason User Banned (Duration Pending): Dismissing transphobia
I showed my gf the post that I quoted. She had a good laugh. And she's trans. This is typical ERA toxicity, where everything is black and white. I got shit on in another topic for being anti-lgbt while being part of that group. I got shit on by people for being anti-that, hating that, while these people fight for better Switch Icons in their spare time.... the same night I was part of a demonstration in my city. It's just ridiculous. I will watch the Globes. With my gf. With our friends. With other trans folk. And we will have great night. So that's that. I'm out.
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EtcetEraThread It's Trans Awareness Week! (Nov 13th -19th)
Reason User Banned (Duration Pending): Transphobia
I wouldn't say cheating, but there is a reason, why male and female athletes are separated. Male bodies most of the time have a physical advantage over woman's bodies. What gender you identify with, doesn't change the nature of your physical body. This creates an philosophical problem, since woman, who were born with a male body, could keep there natural advantage, which would be unfair for woman, who were born with a woman's body. Do we sort people, how they were born or how they are identify with now? We group people in different section, since they have different limits. So "woman" and "male" disciplines are technical just limit-group names to begin with. Maybe those groups needs to be updated and have more sections, similar to weight classes in boxing.