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EtcetEraThread Era's Woman Problem (Read OP)
Reason User Banned (1 Week): Dismissive and condescending attitude towards sensitive issues.
I know you ladies are using this thread to try stand on a stool and be heard over the crowd, and I hope you don't think this me trying to kick the stool out from under you. But I think while you're telling people to stop and think about your unique perspective, you can be quick to dismiss any others from all over the world. America = The World is a real perspective bias that happens across much of the english speaking parts of the internet. This of course shouldn't dictate what you have to permit however. If you're making a garden for yourselves you're entiteled to prune any buds you need to, and rip out any weeds. I think the solution may just call for a slight attitude adjustment. I can only imagine the mountains of shit you must have to put up with on regular basis, but while you have your arms up in a cage like a seasoned pugalist should, it may be obscuring a part of your view. You may not be seeing how the simple framing of how you issue bans may be causing anxiety. I've lurked here and at the old place for years and posted maybe a little over 300 times so I'm no loss to the community if I have to be banned to foster a better environment for the rest of you who need it more. But it would make the world of difference for my, and most observers perspectives, if I heard "Sorry fella, this is a private club and you don't meet the dress code, let me show you the door and best of luck elsewhere!" instead of "Good god, you're much too evil to be here, fuck off and burn in hell forever!". I think the latter causes alot of the bristling and pushback, whereas the former, most reasonable people could accept a little more gracefully. Sure some people will still try to cause a fuss but that's just the differnce between the weeds and the buds.
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EtcetEra HangoutsThread US PoliERA 2018 |OT7| Tell Me The Bad Things That Happened Since I Fell Asleep
Red Text Whaent?
Going to echo a sentiment I made in the last thread because now it's actually relevant: 1. A lawyer who knows his client is untrustworthy and that the client might eventually blame the lawyer for the client's crimes; 2. A lawyer who is actively enabling a criminal and needs some form of protection from that criminal; 3. A lawyer who might himself be working with Russians to produce kompromat; 4. A lawyer who is also an FBI Informant. Pick one. Or fuck, pick several -- you never know.
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GamingThread [Rumor] Brad Sams: Xbox Scarlett Cloud box information leaked (Next-gen; Traditional system as well)
Reason User Banned (2 Days): Repeatedly antagonizing other users + backseat modding
This is embarassing....what is this childishness? Going through post history and going after someone on a game forum? How sad is this. This is something a child would do, also nothing in my posts is "Console warrier" BS, you are seeing what you want to see. Take it to the mods or PM. In fact pretty sure this is against the rules. There is a post in this very thread that said "Power is everything" so before you have a meltdown do your research and do not jump in on a conversation. In fact numerous posters Quoted this post, it's a few pages back.
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GamingThread No Man's Sky PC performance thread
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(Click for general game info.) (as at 19/07/2018) Nvidia: AMD: Intel: Depends on your processor; download the (Russian; launch build) (German; launch build) Download , input your desired framerate limit in the "Framerate limit" box, and hit enter (the program comes bundled with and earlier versions of EVGA PrecisionX). Alternatively, those with an Nvidia GPU have the option of , which can also be used to impose a framerate cap, either (click the small tool icon to open the game profile section). Useful if you your system can't maintain, say, 60fps and you're sensitive to the wild fluctuations, or you're experiencing uneven frametimes. The greater window the engine has to render a given frame, if you're imposing a lower framerate than the game can otherwise provide, may also help in alleviating stuttering related to data streaming. Open the task manager, switch to the Services tab and disable TabletInputService. Use the aptly-named program. See for a usage guide. When posting your own tip/trick or something else you'd like to see here in the OP, be sure to tag my username (@JaseC) as this way I'll receive a notification. I may miss your suggestion otherwise. Bordered; Borderless; Fullscreen Self-explanatory Self-explanatory Off/On Off; FXAA; TAA (Low); TAA; TAA + FXAA 60 -&gt; 100 in increments of 1 60 -&gt; 100 in increments of 1 Off; Medium; High; Ultra 0 -&gt; 100 in increments of 1 Off/On 1x; 2x; 4x; 8x; 16x Low; Medium; High; Ultra Low; Medium; High; Ultra Low; Medium; High Off/On 30fps; 60fps; 90fps; 110fps; Max 0 -&gt; 128 in increments of 1 Currently non-functional. See "Run the game in a borderless window" for a workaround.
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EtcetEraThread Need help, Roommate groomed into a scam, won't listen to reason.
Reason User Banned (3 Days): Repeated inflammatory commentary + accumulated infractions
MID-FUCKING-FIFTIES? LMAO. No offense but is she just dumb, white trash?
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EtcetEraThread Swedish student's dramatic plane protest stops man's deportation 'to hell'
Reason User Banned (Duration Pending): Trolling, account still in junior phase.
Alright, let's take all afghan people in, because if one person is endangered there then all of them are.
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EtcetEraThread Swedish student's dramatic plane protest stops man's deportation 'to hell'
Reason User Banned (Duration Pending): Racist / homophobic conspiracy theories
Do you have a source that he was openly gay? Because if that was the case, then the reasoning would be quite interesting indeed, as usually the connex of homosexuality-&gt;taliban/Afghan government not capable of protecting them from Taliban leads to deportations being impossible (which in turns leads to the Problem of a lot of People wrongly claiming to be homosexual to come into this "privilege".).
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EtcetEraThread I've just been told she faked most of her orgasms
Reason User Banned (Duration Pending): Misogyny
If she can't make herself - its her problem. It's not your fault by any means. All normal people should be able to orgasm after some time of intercourse. An hour of the old "in-out in-out" action should be plenty for any normal person, man or a woman, to cum. So if she's having problems, that's her problem. So i wouldn't worry about myself much if i were you. Try giving her ques next time. Perhaps, a signal like, tell her "i'm going to soon baby or some shit like that" Slap her ass or something, or let her play with her clit while your tapping it. My fucking girlfriend comes like crazy, and i couldn't care less if she's faking it or not, as long as im not being selfish, i try to pleasure her as much as i can, and pleasure myself as well.. just be decent like. EDIT: all in all, the older i get the more i start to hate women in general. Every time you meet someone new you think, OH we have something special here, she's different etc etc. Some time later you realize that she is just another woman. They're all the fucking same.
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EtcetEraThread Era's Woman Problem (Read OP)
Reason User Banned (Duration Pending): Ignoring mod post, thread derailment. Consistent pedantry on issues surrounding minorities.
You said that many people use opposite sex in a colloquial way to refer to opposite gender, rather than sex, but this does not mean that this is the correct terminology. Sticking to formally correct language is not hostile. Refering to sex organs that may be the cause of dysphoria specifically to differentiate can, however, certainly be understood as such. Which is why strongly suspect the isolated "trans women are not the opposite sex of non-trans men" not to be the ban-worthy issue, but what came after that.
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EtcetEraThread Era's Woman Problem (Read OP)
Reason User banned (duration under admin review): trolling, derailing, lying about post history
I got called a racist nazi for saying black panther was bad. I'm sure you can guess what happened to that poster. nothing. This site is hilarious.
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EtcetEraThread Era's Woman Problem (Read OP)
Red Text This thread is not about transgender people and dating. Please do not derail the thread with such conversation. Further posts along this line will be warned or banned for thread derailment.
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EtcetEraThread Era's Woman Problem (Read OP)
Reason (User Banned: 1 Week) Rationalizing transphobia
Someone made a comment on the previous page that the recently unbanned be given a PM with a way to phrase their comment in a non-offensive way, assuming there's a possibility (no matter how remote) that they may have not had ill intent. In this case (choosing for the sake of my argument to assume the best of the poster; i.e. that he's not trying to just stir up shit), the poster may not have meant to imply that a trans woman was not a woman, and simply meant to state that his personal sexual preference is for a naturally born vagina and used some really clunky language to make that statement. You can try to teach him that the way he chose to use language was tantamount to saying she wasn't a real woman, and help him improve. From there, you can then start asking questions like "why did you feel the need to post that statement at all?" If he just wants to shout into the void what his sexual preferences are, maybe let him know that, quite frankly, nobody cares, especially not in this thread. If it feels to him like Era is telling him his innate sexual preferences are seeded in transphobia, and he wants to clarify his understanding and perhaps challenge it, there's a way to get that question/feeling out as well and start to break that down that's genuine and respectful. I think there is immense value in trying to educate people on how to use language in a respectful way, and I think a lot of people use words improperly and fail to express the nuances of their beliefs appropriately. Not necessarily because they come from a place of bigotry or hate but because they simply don't have the tools to express their beliefs. This is partially a failing of educating, where writing skills are going down the toilet, and partially a failing of social media, which rewards poorly thought out hot takes and condensed musings. Of course, I know it's completely untenable to ask the mods to do this (i.e., tutor posters who are willing to learn). And bannings don't teach, they punish - when you ban someone for transphobia who genuinely believes they weren't being transphobic, you might make that individual person more entrenched unfortunately. Hopefully they keep following the discussion and learn from it. Obviously you can't help those who don't want to learn, so hopefully repeat offenders get perma'd. For the record, I like the modding here. I never went into OT on GAF because it was a shit place with generally shit moderating, but here I feel like things are kept pretty much under control. Certainly not everyone will (or should) feel the same way, but given that the mods are listening I want to throw my voice in with those saying "good job." Edit: Oh, and I guess this line of conversation is kind of contributing to the derailment of the thread, but it kind feels like the train is running on a whole other set of tracks now anyway? Edit2: Oh fuck did he call a trans person a t***? Well, maybe a bad example then my bad
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EtcetEraThread Era's Woman Problem (Read OP)
Reason User Banned (1 Day): Inflammatory comments
Seems boring to have a forum where everyone just agrees and pats eachother on the back. If people feel uncomfortable discussing things in a place that is as heavily moderated as this forum I don't know how they are able to function in real life. From my experience people here are more than capable of addressing dumb posts and take down problematic arguments, so I don't see the need to have stricter mods that run around and ban anyone with a different viewpoint.
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EtcetEraThread Era's Woman Problem (Read OP)
Reason User Banned (Permanent): Alt-Account
The lack of self awareness can be truly vexing. It reminds me of a recent thread where a few gay guys expressed discomfort towards terms like cocksucker, even when being applied to political opponents. I was surprised by how many posters proclaimed that it was just a right wing distraction tactic despite the fact that many in that very thread were asking for consideration. It was a very discouraging thread.
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EtcetEraThread Dungeons & Dragons is having it's best year ever. Wizard IPs as a whole have Esports Potential (MTG)
Red Text Mod Edit The article talk a lot about Magic the Gathering Arena. That's the idea behind esports on different properties Wizard/Hasbro have.
Wait... What ? I... Don't get it. The fact that D&amp;D is getting so much better is great (they say it's because of Stranger Things but i'd say it's more because of Mercer &amp; Crew). But seing that and thinking ?!? What ?
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GamingThread Idola: Phantasy Star Saga (mobile) announced, trailer, screens, dev team, details
Reason User Warned - Inflammatory Generalization
Awesome - this is what people have been asking for. Mobile Gaming is cancer.
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EtcetEraThread Is dark comedy going to go away now??
Reason User Banned (1 Week): Unironic use of a cultural pejorative + numerous accumulated infractions
Are you kidding me... if anything, dark humor is returning with a vengeance... the more SJW-ishness, the counter-culture fights back
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EtcetEraThread I Saw Gal Gadot's Casting as Wonder Woman as a Failure in Diversity
Red Text Do not post any images that would be considered not safe for work. Refer to part III of our Posting Etiquette section in the FAQ to refresh yourself on our guidelines if needed.
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EtcetEraThread "Demon Child" holds plane hostage for 8 hours
Reason User Banned (2 Days) - Inappropriate Joke
Bender Bending Rodriguez: “Have you ever tried simply turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?” But seriously, the flight attendants are definitely packing oxys and xans, just slip one of those bad boys in his juice and no more problems.
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GamingThread No Man's Sky: NEXT |OT| A Korvax, a Gek and a Vykeen walk into a base..
Reason User Banned (3 Days): Trolling + Derailing an Official Topic
Hi, Kyuuji, So you’re quoting me from literally just two posts. Weird that you’re attempting to paint me as some kind of frantically obsessed person out to bring down the creator’s of No Man’s Sky. I mean... lol... I made one small comment in this thread... and, yes, it was done in a nice way, without vitriol. But since you brought up my posting history, which is diverse, and covers many different games, I have to bring up your posting history. You have ten pages of posts to your name, 99% of which are all about ‘No Man’s Sky’. I have a suggestion: I think you need to step away from this and get some perspective. Like I said earlier, it’s great that the developer is fixing their game. That’s wonderful. But they shouldn’t have hyped their game the way they did. That was wrong. I’m sorry if that bothers you, but that’s a very valid criticism. In the future I think you should just allow people to voice their opinions instead of telling them to ‘move on’. Rarely does being dictatorial like that ever produce a good result. And, yeah, I think you’re stirring up your own pot by trying to shape and control the discussion about a game that you’re clearly very attached to. I’m sorry, but not everyone is going to agree with you that No Man’s Sky is a great game, or that its developers are without fault.
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EtcetEraThread TMZ:Demi Lovato Hospitalized For Heroin Overdose
Reason User warned: Unsympathetic discourse, victim blaming.
There's certain things we all know not to do. Certain things we know will probably ruin our lives if we do. Trying something like heroin is on that list. It doesn't matter what you're going through one should know don't even try that. Addiction is a disease but unless she was born addicted to heroin she should have known better. If you're an addictive person that goes triple for you. I seriously wonder what the moment was when she decided to even try heroin. What could push someone that far to basically voluntarily become a heroin addict because everyone knows if you try it that's basically what you're doing.
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EtcetEraThread TMZ:Demi Lovato Hospitalized For Heroin Overdose
Reason User warned: inflammatory drive-by.
I dont know why so many of these "idols" are such failures when it comes to drugs. Heroin has absolutely no appeal. If you wantto destroy your life, go for it I guess.
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GamingThread Should Sony also release a streaming only console?
Reason User banned 1 week for system warring
Boy some of the fanboy dribble that comes out of ppls mouths is ridiculous lol. So lets get this straight? Sony acquired Gakai, also bought out Onlive for its patents on streaming, already had pstv and are heavily invested in PSNow but they arent ready or wont be able to compete with Microsoft? Lol only on the internet man. Listen before this streaming talk was even happening on the Microsoft sid Sony has been investing heavily on making a streaming console a reality not only are they and will be competitive they probably will have the better solution since theyve been doing it so long. Its like ppl saying Microsoft is a software company yet Sony PS4s software features and os were spanking xbox ones upon release. Im sure Mictosoft will come out with something good but please stop the Sony hate and lets not act like Micro is innovating with streaming when Sony has been pushing extremely hard on this front before we even heard this news. Btw Psnow worked great when i tried it with most games seeming as if they were being played straight off disc. This bs narrative console warriors are pushing tht it is trash is funny. Only reason i didnt keep it was its price point and it didnt have ps4 games at the time.
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GamingThread Megaman X Legacy Collection 1+2 |OT| "This is the story of the Maverick Hunter known as X..."
Reason User Warned: Inappropriate Language
It does afaik. It's either Jap dub or Eng dub, neither have subs. Only X6 because that game doesn't have English voices. For X4, X7 and X8 it's always English audio + whatever language you chose, except for Japanese which has Japanese voices.
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EtcetEraThread Era's Woman Problem (Read OP)
Red Text Everyone, this has been a good thread so far with a lot of useful and thoughtful discussion. We’ve heard from a lot of voices and have been given a lot to think about. We also think it’s valuable for members to listen to and engage each other about these issues that are important to our community. We would like to keep this thread open, but if that’s going to happen there needs to be less hostility than there has been in the last few pages. We understand that people are passionate, but nobody is going to gain anything from this discussion if it devolves into personal attacks and name calling. If you think someone is over the line, report them. Thank you.
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EtcetEraThread Era's Woman Problem (Read OP)
Reason User banned (2 days): misrepresenting other posters
Did I really read in this thread that I am not progressive if I would not be willing to marry a transgender person? Why have I seen so many posts trying to redefine what progressivism or liberalism is? From an academic perspective it seems like a few of you are a bit off and are subscribing to some caricaturized version of these ideals... How it got to this point I have no idea. It would explain some of the infighting and outright dismissal of others who for all intentd and purposes are really on the same team.
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EtcetEraThread Era's Woman Problem (Read OP)
Reason User warned: trolling
I propose an update to the ToS. Users must agree to have chips implanted in their heads before posting is emabled. Posts that aren't progressive enough will result in a mild electric shock. Who's with me?
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EtcetEraThread Era's Woman Problem (Read OP)
Reason User Banned (3 Days): Misrepresenting the arguments of others + straw man arguments
No, I am not complaining that I can't and I think you know that. I am pointing out that there is a double standard and that's what I disagree with. Any double standard I will disagree with. And that's where my complaining stops. We could be talking about turtles right now and if I saw a double standard I would point it out as bs imo. Aside from that I'm not going to argue with you as I absolutely do not want anyone to feel uncomfortable posting their opinions. I welcome you and your opinions even if I were to strongly disagree with them (and that's not the case in this instance) and I hope you'd do the same for me. Basically my view on gender inequality is that women should speak up/stand up/be brought up as equals in every aspect of life and its absurd to me that this isn't already the case. It's absolutely ridiculous that it's even a thing. I just want women to stand up as opposed to pulling anyone else down. That's the best way to balance things imo.
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EtcetEraThread Era's Woman Problem (Read OP)
Reason User banned (1 week): series of condescending posts attempting to invalidate concerns over misogyny
I don't know this poster's history and hopefully it isn't a bad one, but I was wondering how to respond and this comment pretty much sums up my feelings. I read a lot of the "females" thread and I didn't find the OP's arguments strong enough to win me over. I'm not going to try and invalidate someone's experience, but simply expressing your opinion doesn't make it valid or particularly strong. I feel somewhat the same about this thread. ERA seems fairly progressive. Yeah, you have a bunch of juveniles and some negatives slip in, but the mods seems pretty good about giving warning and bans when it's clear and obvious that someone needs either a time out or a permanent ban. The problem with people like the OP is that they have this rigid idea about the world around them and they tend to disregard everything else, including the opinions of others. Not saying it is the case in this thread, but often it just seems immature and attention seeking. OP, you've got this idea of what the word progressive means, but guess what? Not everyone is required to hold the exact same world view as you.
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EtcetEraThread Era's Woman Problem (Read OP)
Reason User Banned (Permanent): Trolling and baiting; history of infractions. Junior account.
People arent perfect, even the most progressive person is going to have a flaw that you people will jump at. Look at James Gunn. The outrage culture in this forum is ridiculous.
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EtcetEraThread Era's Woman Problem (Read OP)
Reason User Banned (2 Weeks): Trolling, downplaying misogyny.
I just asked my wife and she laughed. I have never met a lady complain about being called a female. Some people get offended and some people don't give a rats ass.
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EtcetEraThread Era's Woman Problem (Read OP)
Reason User Banned (24 hours): Antagonizing other members
Red Text mod edit: name removed.
I'll probably get banned for calling a specific poster out, but whatever! Look at the posting history of someone like
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GamingThread Dragon Quest composer Koichi Sugiyama isn't happy just being a war crime denier, is anti-LGBT too!
Reason User Banned (5 Days): Inflammatory False Equivalencies + Downplaying Intolerance
Just goes to show that there is hate on both sides of the fence....
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GamingThread Dragon Quest composer Koichi Sugiyama isn't happy just being a war crime denier, is anti-LGBT too!
Reason User banned (length under admin review): advocating child beatings, hostility in the thread, history of misogyny and accumulated infractions
They're problematic but I think the people and culture that you are raised in are a bigger influence than Trump. If you were a boy being raised in the south in a racist family, and people in your community think calling people F**s and N*****s is funny, then you're going to adopt their beliefs. Now, if you were a boy being raised under me - that shit would not fly. I'd ground and even beat it out of you if necessary. That's how I was brought up, when I was 5-6 years old I remember making a racist comment towards our maid and when my dad heard about it he flipped out and almost whooped my ass. Another time I was going to go buy Super Mario Bros 3 with my mom, but I made fun of a homeless person on the way to the store, so she punished me and I got no game. All these little things have a powerful effect on shaping the mind of a 5-year old - it teaches you wrong from right. If my parents accepted or celebrated what I did, I probably would be racist right now.
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GamingThread Dragon Quest composer Koichi Sugiyama isn't happy just being a war crime denier, is anti-LGBT too!
Reason User Banned (Duration Pending): Downplaying homophobia and denial of war crimes. History of dismissing sensitive concerns.
The only people you’re burning by choosing not to purchase DQ games are other DQ fans. It is not a crime to be ignorant, and his personal beliefs are of no matter. I get people want to give some kind of response to dickheadish behavior, but you look silly.
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EtcetEraThread Who Has a Co-Worker That They Can't Stand?
Reason User Warned: Please do not advocate death or harm against others while using the forum
She smells bad all the time, drinks a Monster, then gets a large Starbucks frappe and complains about not feeling well. I'm hoping for a heart attack soon. Edit: How could I forget! Her laugh makes me want to go deaf. It's basically assault having to hear it.
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EtcetEraThread EU warns its citizens to prepare for the worst [No Deal Brexit]
Reason User Warned: Personal attack.
I absolutely wasn’t revelling in it you massive judgemental arsehole. I was genuinely advising that if you want to escape the ill effects of Brexit you will have to travel further than Ireland. Jesus Christ some of the people on this forum...
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GamingThread Take Two is pleased with Switch Game Results
Reason User Banned (1 month): Consistently derailing threads, engaging in console wars, spreading conspiracy theories
I wouldn't hold my breath. Here's the deal. GTA has sold hundreds of millions of copies to.... let's call them Ben and Jerry. Ben and Jerry have had a longstanding golden relationship with Rockstar/Take Two for damn near 20 years. They've made hundreds of millions together. Ben and Jerry even pay the out ass for exclusive marketing promotions. Take Two/Rockstar is very happy with them. But hold on, some guy named Simon enters the room. He's not interested in paying for exclusive marketing promotions but he sure would like GTA. Now sure, Take Two/Rockstar can sell millions of copies to Simon, but in the grand scheme of things, it's not going to be the same level of sales they have built up with their Ben and Jerry fanbases over the years. Ben would prefer that Take Two/Rockstar only do GTA business with him and reluctantly that other business mogul Jerry, and not have split his cut in the market with Simon as well as Jerry. and to this Take Two/Rockstar say......